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Adolf Albin vs Ossip Bernstein
Vienna (1904), Vienna AUH
Italian Game: Giuoco Pianissimo. Canal Variation (C50)  ·  0-1



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Oct-22-22  Brenin: Is it Monday already? <jrredfield> said it all.
Oct-22-22  jrredfield: <Brenin: Is it Monday already?> I guess so - about as easy as a Saturday POTD gets. It's hard to believe that White didn't see the rook mate when capturing the Q. Maybe it was rapid chess.
Oct-22-22  mel gibson: Well - White can't take the Queen so
I suppose White did that as a way of resigning?

Stockfish 15 says:

23... Qxf3

(23. .. Qxf3 (♕e2xf3 h2-h4 ♕f3-e2 ♖h1-h3
♖d6-f6 ♕a4-d1 ♗b6xf2+ ♔g1-h1 ♕e2xd1 ♖f1xd1 ♖b8xb4 a2-a3 ♖b4-e4 ♖d1-c1 ♗f2-b6 ♔h1-h2 ♖f6-d6 ♖c1-d1 ♖d6-g6 ♖d1-d2 ♗b6-c5 ♖d2-c2 ♗c5-d6+ ♔h2-g1 ♖e4-d4 ♔g1-f1 ♖d4xd5 ♖h3-f3 ♖d5-d4 ♖c2-e2 ♖d4xh4 ♖e2-e8+ ♔g8-h7 ♖f3xf7 ♖h4-h1+ ♔f1-e2 ♖h1-a1 ♖f7-f2 ♖g6-g4 ♖e8-a8 ♖g4-a4 ♖f2-f5 ♔h7-g6 ♖f5-f3 ♖a1-a2+ ♔e2-f1) +10.46/39 263)

score for Black +10.46 depth 39.

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  al wazir: Very difficult? This was dead easy.
Oct-22-22  King.Arthur.Brazil: Monday puzzle... ♕xf3. Goodbye.
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  raymondhow: Who chooses a 2008 Monday puzzle for a Saturday puzzle??
Oct-22-22  agb2002: Black has a bishop for a knight and a pawn.

The white king cannot move. Hence, 23... Qxf3 wins a piece (24.gxf3 Rg6#).

Oct-22-22  mayankk06: A better puzzle may have been - what can Black possibly do to lose from here.

White's position is simply grim. The King is boxed between his own pieces, one Rook is hopelessly locked at h1 and so it is laying a Rook down, the other Rook is defending a mate at f2, the Knight has nowhere to go while the Queen has too many weak squares to protect.

While Qxf3 is a quick death, a cynic will probably enjoy White's agony a bit more by playing Rg6 or Rxd5.

Oct-22-22  parch: Seems the weekend has flown by.
Oct-22-22  AlHam: From 13 Albin is toast.
Oct-22-22  TheaN: This took me way too long, mainly because I was looking for 'very difficult' material after Qxf3. There isn't, I solved this on a Monday back in 2008. Weird.
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  chrisowen: I happy guffed it x c juvenile Qxf3 abridge lag it cobble ia hack Qxf3 it over;
Oct-22-22  Refused: <CG> can we get a proper Saturday? This is sorta anticlimatic.
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  Willem Wallekers: 23 ... Rxd5 and 23 ... Rg6 are winning as well.
Oct-22-22  King.Arthur.Brazil: The King disagrees: 23...♖g6 24. ♘h4 (♖xg2+ 25. ♘xg2) 25. g3 ♖xh4 26. ♕d1 ♕e7 27. ♕f3 ♖xb4 28. ♔g2 or 26...♕xd1 28. ♖xd1 ♖xb4. Well, White is a piece down but no checkmate yet.
Oct-22-22  QueenMe: Got this one immediately. A long time ago I learned that when the king is flanked by rooks, to always check to see if some other piece can be moved in front of him. If not, what would otherwise seem a simple check wins the game. Surprised that white did not see this.
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  steinitzfan: Odd. I didn't get it. I usually get Monday puzzles - even when they come up on Saturdays. I rejected Qf3 out of hand because I didn't think Black had the backup. Everybody knows that when you sacrifice on KB6 you have to go in a la Morphy with multiple bishop and rook checks to finish the job.

There's a lesson there. You have to look at a position for what it is and not look at it as a category.

Oct-22-22  mel gibson: <Oct-22-22
Premium Chessgames Member parch: Seems the weekend has flown by.>

It's still Saturday.
We're waiting on an insane Sunday puzzle.

Oct-22-22  TheaN: <King.Arthur.Brazil: The King disagrees: 23...♖g6 24. ♘h4>

Disagreeing with the best move is a bold statement :>. Rg6 would require to see 24.Qb3 Re8 25.h4 Re3! -+ to claim a big advantage, and less than Qxf3 directly. 24.Nh4 doesn't really accomplish anything for White after 24....Rf6! (hitting on f2) 25.Nf3 Qxf3 and the rook's better positioned (yet we're still hitting on f3).

Oct-22-22  AIC: <steinitzfan: There's a lesson there. You have to look at a position for what it is and not look at it as a category.> Very well said!
Oct-22-22  AlicesKnight: A Saturday? Took me a moderate time to find ...QxN, as I was looking for something more extended. As with others, it seems on reviewing. Still, a likeable simplicity.
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  Fusilli: I suspect this wasn't intentional. Maybe <CG> has a list of future puzzles and this one was on the wrong list.

Errare humanum est.

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  Gregor Samsa Mendel: This might be a legitimate mistake, but I think that CG occasionally sticks in easy puzzles on Saturdays or Sundays just to prevent weaklings like me from automatically skipping the puzzles on these days.
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  fredthebear: Last I saw, CG is looking for a new daily puzzle person-in-charge. The dedicated puzzle solvers are some of our best, nicest, smartest members IMHO. Most of you on this page would do a good job if you have the time, me thinks.
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  Fusilli: <Gregor Samsa Mendel> Yes, I can see reasons why it could be intentional, echoing what <steinitzfan> noted. And I didn't mind this mishap anyway (if it was a mishap.)

I solved it in a few seconds, and then spent about a minute double-checking, assuming I was missing something. OTB, I would not waste the extra time. There is a lesson there, I think.

Guess-the-Move is a much better training method than puzzles. It resembles real life play, where no one taps on your shoulder and tells you "psst, you have a winning move here!"

It'd be cool to have a Guess-the-move ongoing competition, or rating, or something.

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