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Ilia Smirin vs Boris Alterman
Israel (1993), rd 11
English Opening: King's English. Four Knights Variation Fianchetto Lines (A29)  ·  0-1

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Nov-23-06  ahmadov: I found that immediately, but I also think that White should not have played 38.exd4
Nov-23-06  Confuse: way easier then wednesday!

:D

happy turkey day americans.

Nov-23-06  vibes43: Got it for same reason as <Isolated Pawn: Got it! Pretty easy for a Thursday simply because there are so few options. Happy Turkey Day!>. I Just couldn't work out all the lines thereafter in my mind. I'll bet Alterman did though. Good puzzle.
Nov-23-06  Rawprawn: Got that instantly. Just no alternatives.
Nov-23-06  podjevsky: hmmm, how can anyone say this is simple, and that they get it instantly? Am I that lousy?

Ok, the first move is the only forcing one. Therefore a nice candidate move, but after that move there are quite a number of lines that has to be calculated. It took me some time to run through them all.

Nov-23-06  greensfield: Soon realised that the key to the puzzle was how to exploit the discovered attack by the Bishop on the White Queen. 37...Rxd4! exd4 e3! & Hey Presto! Curtains for White.
Nov-23-06  chk12: Found it, too.. I am going from record to record since last Thursday :-D
Nov-23-06
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  thegoodanarchist: I found the correct line, but didn't think I was working it out far enough - only to find that Alterman didn't even go as far as my analysis. He could have played a little longer.
Nov-23-06  2ndNature: <eaglewing> If 39.Qb3 then 39...Qxf2+ 40.Kh1 Qe1+ and there in no escape from mate.

If Qc3 then 39...e2 (with thread 40...Qh2#) and again no real way to defend for White.

Nov-23-06  jegbjerg: I didn't get it. I was looking at Ne5-f3 lines, but couldn't find anything. I did briefly look at Rxd4, but I didn't see the continuation. I missed the discovered attack on the White queen.
Nov-23-06  eaglewing: When blindness came over me!
Thanks, <2ndNature>.
Nov-23-06  gchristopher: I actually saw another thing entirely:
37. Qc2 Re5 38. Rc8+ Kh7 39. Bxe4 Nxe3. After pretty much whatever white does he looses, or so say a couple of chess programs a double checked with. Does this qualify as a puzzle solution, even if it was not in the actual game?
Nov-23-06  Rubenus: I didn't get it, but it is Thursday so it doesn't really matter. I usually get Monday and Tuesday, and somtimes Wednesday, but not Thursday. Thanks for everyone's analysis.
Nov-23-06  eblunt: <gchristopher> Rook cant move to e5. However 37 .. Rd5 seems to have some merit, e.g 38 Bxe4 Rg5 39 Rc8+ Kh7 and white is losing.
Nov-23-06  melv: I finaly got one right happy happy joy joy.
Nov-23-06  Stellar King: I got this problem too!! I am on a roll ...FOUR DAYS IN A ROW!!! REMEMBER MY FOUR RULES ....(ask me in the The Kibitzer's Café)
Nov-23-06
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  playground player: Yay! Solved a Thursday puzzle! But then I just love discovered attacks on Queens...
Nov-23-06
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  An Englishman: Good Afternoon, and Happy Thanksgiving to the American Contingent: The odd thing about this position is that the winning combination doesn't exist until and unless White plays 37.Qc2?, which means that White created the combination that was used against him. But his position was very difficult: among other things, Black has 37...Nh2 and 38...Nf3+; 39.Bxf3,gxf3 producing an ill-tempered pawn to assist the Black Queen's invasion on the light squares. I wonder if White can survive 37.Rxg6?!,fxg6; 38.Bxe4,Qh2+; 39.Kf1. Probably not: 39...Nxf2.
Nov-23-06  vibes43: <eblunt: <gchristopher> Rook cant move to e5. However 37 .. Rd5 seems to have some merit, e.g 38 Bxe4 Rg5 39 Rc8+ Kh7> Wouldn't 37 ..Rd5, 38 Rxg6 muddy things up? If fxg6, Qc2 and Na6 could attack Rd5
Nov-23-06  flott: Nice but too easy for Thursday.
Nov-23-06  haha: man, i suck at this... :(

The pawns are valuable!!!

Nov-23-06  yonikeren: Actually,there is another possibility for a first move that i have considered which is Ne5 with the idea of Nf3+ or opening the d file for the rook. My line went Ne5 if PxN then Qg4 pins the bishop and prepares Rd1+. the defence Rc8 then is of course impossible. if 2.Rc8 then Nf3+ seemed good for black eg Bxf3 Pxf3 RxR+ Kh7 and now black threats both the queen and an interesting attack on the king. My line is of course not as clear as the game,but i do challange anyone to refute it WITHOUT using a computer chess software. You will find that it is quite difficult :)
Nov-23-06  Amulet: Missed! ughhh! Patzer...Patzer..Patzer.., will I forever be a Patzer! Why were'nt I born just like Kasparov, or at least like Morphy?
Nov-23-06
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  kevin86: I saw the possible moves-but was unable to get it together.

The sac was good,but equally strong was the second move-setting up a very irresistable fork.

Nov-24-06  eblunt: <vibes43> 37 ... rd5 38 Rxg6 fxg6 39 Qc2 Rf5 and the threats on f2 and h2 are too much for white. better after 38 ... fxg6 would be 39 bxe4 but the rook still comes to g5 and white is better
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