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Dec-25-05 | | KingG: This is one of the best Kramnik games i've ever seen. I can't believe there is no kibitzing on this page. There are many great moves:
11.Nc3! allowing 11...Nxf4, giving up the bishop pair and wrecking his king-side pawn structure. 20.e5! trapping the knight on e8.
23.Nd4! sacrificing a pawn.
25.Rcd1! refusing to win the exchange, going for more. 28.Bd7! the final touch, defusing Black's counter play. Definitely worthy of <acirce>'s 'interesting Kramnik games' collection. |
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Dec-25-05 | | aw1988: Kramnik has his own distinctive style. However, one sees an element of Petrosian in his games. |
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Dec-25-05 | | csmath: <11.Nc3! allowing 11...Nxf4, giving up the bishop pair and wrecking his king-side pawn structure.>
This move was not invented by Kramnik but rather belongs to Smyslov and it was first played before Kramnik was even born. 14. Bxf3?!
is a positional error and so is
19. ... Qd7?!
It is easy to win when your opponent makes positional errors. The first original move in this game was played by Svidler 15. ... Nf6. This is not a particularly great game.
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Dec-25-05 | | OneArmedScissor: This isn't that good of a game...
I don't consider complete blunders by other players great games for winning party. |
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Dec-26-05 | | KingG: <csmath> Yes, sorry about that, it was late at night when i looked at this game, and i didn't bother to check how much of this was theory. I still think it's a pretty nice game, but perhaps not as great as i thought last night. <It is easy to win when your opponent makes positional errors.> To win a game of chess, your opponent has to make some errors. |
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Dec-26-05 | | KingG: <OneArmedScissor> <I don't consider complete blunders by other players great games for winning party.> What blunder? Can you point out the move you're talking about? |
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Dec-26-05
 | | offramp: <OneArmedScissor: This isn't that good of a game...
I don't consider complete blunders by other players great games for winning party.> So what is the winning party supposed to do? Ignore the blunder in the hope of creating a strategically perfect game? |
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Dec-26-05 | | syracrophy: A great game by Kramnik! The purpose of the move 27...Qxe5 was to avoid 28.Rxh4? Qg5+ winning the rook, but black forgot the decisive move 28.Bd7!! Rd8 29.Rxh4, and now 29...Qg5+ its answered with 30.Rg4 |
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Dec-26-05 | | OneArmedScissor: I never denied the fact that big blunders are part of the game. I understand this and accept it. Granted, there will be mistakes, dubious moves, etc.
I'm simply stating I'd rather see a good game between players that isn't decided by a big (stupid) blunder. I'd even go as far as letting the player take the move back. |
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Dec-26-05 | | OneArmedScissor: <KingG>
Not this game in particular. I was just making a statement for all games. |
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Dec-26-05 | | acirce: I don't understand why Svidler gives up his bishop pair with 13..Bxf3, especially since it seems it weakens the light squares on the queenside as well, what's the purpose of that trade? |
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Dec-26-05 | | aw1988: In retrospect, it all looks very dubious, but Svidler may have been afraid of something involving f5, or even more dangerous Ne1-c2-e3. You might as well ask him, though. |
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Dec-26-05
 | | tamar: <acirce> 13...Bxf3 was seen in Smyslov vs L Barczay, 1970 Barczay's got his queen to h4, with ...Nf6 following afterwards, but Smyslov just exchanged it off and took over the attack down the g file. Svidler's idea may just be a quick ...c5, but Kramnik plays e4 and gets away with it through tactics. |
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Dec-26-05 | | acirce: Thanks. From these games it looks like it's simply a highly dubious move. I see that 13..Qc8 is usually (?) played, and later ..c5. This looks much sounder. |
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Jan-14-07 | | Octavia: the good thing about Macdonald's book "...the art of logical thinking" is that he never mentions theory, but explains every move, as if it was made for the first time, so that we can learn to understand why these moves are made! This is game 17, p 132 |
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Jan-16-07 | | notyetagm: 28 ♗d7! embarrasses the undefended Black c8-rook, gaining control over the g4-square <WITH TEMPO> (for free) so that White can now grab the Black h4-bishop (♖x♗h4) since White can then meet ... ♕g5+ with ♖h4-g4. |
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Jan-07-09 | | sergeidave: ...and 29...Rxd7 is out of the question as white is now treathening with 30.Qxh7+ devastating for black... |
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Jun-25-09
 | | plang: Karpov played 13..Qc8 in a loss against Ribli at Amsterdam 1980; Seirawan recommended 13..Qb8 aiming for ..c5 and ..Rc8. 15 e3 was new; Smyslov had played 15 Ne4 against Barczay at Kapfenberg 1970. With 15..Nf6 Svidler made it more difficult to achieve the thematic ..c5. Given this concession Seirawan felt that playing for kingside counterplay with 16..h6 followed by ..Ne8 and ..g5 was Svidler's only option. After the pretty 19 d5! and 23 Nd4! Kramnik dominated the board. A pretty variation is 24..Bg5 25 Rcd1..Rb6 26 R5d4..Rxc6 27 Qxc6..Qf5 28 Rd8! winning. |
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Jun-25-09 | | UnsoundHero: One of the great aspects of white's play is the vulnerability of Black's Bh4. If 26...Qg5 27 Qe4 threatens to snip off the bishop that can't flee. If then 27...Rxc6 28 Qxc6, and Black no longer threatens the Pf2. Or 27...h6 28 Qxh4 Rxc6 29 Qxg5 hxg5 30 Bxc6. |
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Jul-28-09
 | | LIFE Master AJ: What a great game by Kramnik.
I was in the process of annotating the eighth game of the Anand-Kramnik match, and this game popped up as a reference to my suggested use of this opening. I then killed about 2 hours just playing over this game and exploring the possible sidelines with the computer. They ought to make this,
"The game of the Day" sometime. |
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Jul-28-09
 | | LIFE Master AJ: > Octavia
Thanks for the reminder, I knew I had gone over this game before, but I could not put my finger on where. (Several of my students and I have gone all the way thorugh that book.) |
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Mar-27-12 | | LoveThatJoker: GOTD: Sketches of Spain
LTJ |
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Mar-27-12 | | Shams: <LoveThatJoker> Not "Bitches Brew"? |
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Mar-27-12 | | LoveThatJoker: <Shams> I'll take Sketches of Spain 8/10 times over Bitches Brew. The other two times I'll take Bitches Brew is when I want to listen to something weird, or when I want inspiration for a burgeoning essay that I've been meaning to complete entitled, "Miles Davis: The Vegan Years." LTJ |
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Mar-27-12 | | Shams: <LTJ> I would choose "Sketches of Spain" too, but I do like the experimental fusion stuff. Was Miles Davis really a vegan? |
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