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| May-07-14 | | MelvinDoucet: Awesome game with very accurate play on both sides! |
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| May-07-14 | | psmith: 21. Nxf7!? |
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| May-07-14 | | Strelets: It's even worse. White also loses the pawn on e5, pinning his remaining rook and defending against his main threat on top of everything else (33...Qxe1+ 34.Kh2 Qxe5.) |
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May-07-14
 | | Check It Out: The game brought to mind Harrison Ford's acting in the 2013 release of Ender's Game. He's got nothing on a wood chess set. |
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| May-07-14 | | Nezhmetdinov: Doesn't 33...Qxe1+ 34.Kh2 Qxe5 allow white a perpetual? |
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May-07-14
 | | FSR: <Nezhmetdinov: Doesn't 33...Qxe1+ 34.Kh2 Qxe5 allow white a perpetual?> Yes, with 35.Qg6+ Kg8 36.Qe8+. Instead of 34...Qxe5??, 34...Rg8! wins. |
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May-07-14
 | | Domdaniel: This, um, may have been my pun. If it *is* a pun -- I'm not quite sure.
I do like the game, however -- Black wins in the French are common enough in real life, but seem rare in this context. And, apart from White's terminal blunder, Black plays well to pick up a few pawns and survive. Those who have never heard of the source work -- Hi, <offramp> -- can now stop pretending to be omniscient. |
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| May-07-14 | | CjjC: If you will believe me: I "joined" the forum just to have this single question answered: Why on earth move and then resign??
This time it appears that he simply realized a fatal mistake, so it probably is not a good time to ask the question: But there are so many games in the database where the last person to move loses (look for yourself if you do not believe me) that I have sometimes wondered if it is true, or a bug in the database that sometimes does not record the last move or something?? Why not wait for the opponents reply in case he slips up, or at least wait for his move in case you missed something, and things are not that hopeless? Yeah sure: Sometimes you are going to sit and think a few minutes after your last move and realise "against a strong opponent this is hopeless." But there still seems to be way too many games for that to be the only reason??
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May-07-14
| | Domdaniel: <CjjC> You are right, of course -- there are quite a few games where a move is immediately followed by resignation. I suspect there are three main reasons: (1) as in this game, where a gross blunder is made and it's clear there is no point waiting for the killing reply; (2) a loss on time, and (3) games where the final move by the winning side was not recorded -- I've done this myself, forgetting to note the winning move in the shock of losing. |
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| May-07-14 | | offramp: I was omniscient enough to read the pun one month before anyone else. |
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May-07-14
| | Domdaniel: Gosh, yes. How do you *do* that? |
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May-07-14
| | Domdaniel: Have they moved the apostrophe? It was <Ender's Game> and it seems now to be <Enders' Game>... arguably an improvement, but still... |
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May-07-14
 | | SwitchingQuylthulg: The admins have never been beyond a little tampering with puns while they're up. M Ahn vs T Ruck, 2007, for instance, was originally "Keep On T.Ruckin'" and "on" was only replaced with "Ahn" after <horncabbage> suggested it. |
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May-07-14
 | | Once: <CjjC: ... Why on earth move and then resign??> Explanation #1 - you play the move, then notice that it has a huge tactical flaw the size of an iceberg. You've just left your rook en prise and he can take it with check which gives him enough time to defend against your g7 mate. You look across at your opponent and he is grinning like a Cheshire cat. He has spotted it too. You know it, he knows it and the small crowd of ambulance chasers standing around the board know it. Now you could insist that he plays on, but that could give the impression that you don't know that you've just made a major blunder and/or that you don't think he's got enough technique to finish you off from here. So you offer your hand sheepishly and try to forget all about it. He doesn't need to play his next move. Except in this position there is a little trap. As others have spotted, the careless 33...Qxe1+ 34. Kh2 Qxe5 allows white to squirm out with a perpetual check. White probably ought to have played on a few moves to see if black would fall into this. Mind you, given the standard of the rest of the game I rather expect that white hadn't noticed the possibility of a perpetual... Explanation #2 - not likely in this instance, but it can sometimes happen that someone moves a piece and then their flag falls before they can press the clock. I have seen that written down with the final (incomplete) move as the last move of the game. |
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| May-07-14 | | Conrad93: White's game looked slightly better until the blunder. Why is this GOTD? |
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| May-07-14 | | Conrad93: Oh, never mind. It's not as obvious as I thought.
20. Rc1? was the real blunder.
20. Qf4 gives white a slight advantage.
After 21...Nb2 white is screwed. |
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| May-07-14 | | Strelets: <FSR; Nezhmetdinov> You're both right. I completely overlooked the perpetual. |
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| May-07-14 | | celtrusco: ... And Black was Pac-man... |
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| May-08-14 | | morfishine: Perhaps one shouldn't be too harsh. Even Grandmasters hang rooks every now and then: Taimanov vs Fischer, 1971 Ever seen a Grandmaster cry?
***** |
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May-08-14
 | | perfidious: <morf> much is made of such occurrences; for it is easy to forget that GMs too are human beings, who pull their pants on one leg at a time, same as we ordinary players. |
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| May-08-14 | | Conrad93: White was lost anyway even before the blunder. |
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May-08-14
| | perfidious: Korchnoi vs Udovcic, 1967 is the first game I ever saw featuring this gambit line, with the irony that Korchnoi took up the cudgels for the White side rather than his accustomed role as defender of the faith. |
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| May-12-14 | | psmith: Above I suggested 21. Nxf7!? No one seemed to want to follow up, but I think it's a really interesting try. The main point is that after 21... Kxf7 22. Bg6+ Kg8 23. h5, White has sacrificed a piece but Black's Rook on h8 might as well not be on the board. It seems pretty hard for Black to get his pieces organized so White seems to have fair compensation. |
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| May-13-14 | | morfishine: <perfidious> This is what I admire about you: You are far from an "ordinary player" and so your self-deprecating outlook is endearing, at least to me ***** |
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| Oct-23-17 | | outplayer: 1) +0.40 (21 ply) 16.Bd2 Nb6 17.Rfc1 h5 18.Qf4 Bd7 19.h4 Kg8 20.Be3 a6 21.Ng5 Be8 22.Rc2 Nc4 23.Bxc4 dxc4 24.Rxc4 Bxg5 25.Qxg5 Bc6 26.Qg3 Rc8 27.Rd4 Qe8 28.Bg5 |
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