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| Jun-24-07 | | zdigyigy: What an ugly opening system for white. |
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| Sep-03-07 | | PetrosyanFan: WOOW
what a nice game for Vaganian!!!!!
17...Rxf3 is CRAZY!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Sep-11-07 | | tpanelas: Paul Hoffman, who accompanied Lautier to the Aeroflot tournament and watched this game, writes about it somewhat grippingly in his new book *King's Gambit* (p. 140 ff): http://www.amazon.com/KINGS-GAMBIT-...- |
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| Nov-02-08 | | SufferingBruin: A year after the fact, someone should congratulate tpanelas for making the catch. Yes, Hoffman gave a healthy amount of ink to this game. According to Hoffman, Vaganian thought for 25 minutes before move 20 (Bh5). Everyone in the press room saw it, Lautier undoubtedly saw it, and finally so did Vaganian. (p. 142) Also from the book is this quote from Lautier, much later in the evening: "I knew what defense he was going to play...He always responds the same way to d4. I had two basic choices. I could try to grind him down in a long game in which I try to build up small positional advantages. Or I could go for a quick kill. I chose the quick kill but it backfired. He came up with a quiet, effective move, putting his bishop out of harm's way, so that it wouldn't be a target for my advancing pawns. Then it was my pawns that became his target and I was really ****ed." (p.151) |
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| Apr-10-09 | | notyetagm: 16 ... ♖a8-e8
click for larger viewBlack's pieces are *so* much better placed than White's that it is downright scary. |
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| Oct-29-15 | | FairyPromotion: Nice to see Vaganian getting some love this week. This one in particular is my favorite Vaganian game. |
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| Oct-29-15 | | Ferro: Pyramid close |
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| Oct-29-15 | | kevin86: The kingside attack is brutal! White is totally incapable of defending. |
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| Oct-29-15 | | RookFile: Great pun, after a famous country music song. |
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Feb-02-20
 | | MSteen: Paul Hoffman discusses this game and it's aftermath in "King's Gambit," his memoir about growing up playing chess and meeting some of the world's top players. Fascinating.
If Lautier had won this game, he would have pocketed $18,000. As it was, he got $800. WOW! Imagine losing $17,200 on one game!! |
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| Aug-22-21 | | Brenin: Well, I got as far as 17 ... Rxf3 (already a mistake according to SF, so that's a great start) 18 Bxf3 Nxg4 19 Bg3 Nxe3, and couldn't decide what White would (or should) do next. If 20 Kh1 there is no chance that I would have seen 20 ... Bh5. Like yesterday's POTD, a brilliant and tempting attack, whereas a quiet positional move is apparently stronger. |
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| Aug-22-21 | | Walter Glattke: A trap against a weak player (e.g. Gates-Carlsen) could be 17.-Be4 18.fxe4 Rxf2 19.Rxf2 Nxg4 20.d5 Qh4 21.exd6 (the trap) Qh2+ 22.Kf1 Nxf2 23.Kxf2 Rf8+ 24.Nf4 g5! and resign (Tartskower fail), but GM or Stockfish would laugh about such an attack. Stockfish 9 set many ? here, that makes me speachless, it is not a mate-in-three, it is a modern puzzle - the raise of the machines! |
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Aug-22-21
 | | OhioChessFan: We've seen a few puzzles lately where the key point is a defender with a Queen offside and unable to enter the fray.It's sure easier to pick up that an immediate sacrificial attack will work when it's essentially announced by virtue of being a puzzle. |
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| Aug-22-21 | | transpose: There were so many enticing candidate moves to choose from on move 17 for black. I initially thought Rf3 but eventually landed on Bh2+. I should have spent more time on my initial candidate move. Extremely tangled variation tree on this one. |
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| Aug-22-21 | | mel gibson: I thought either to sac the Rook or the Knight but
Stockfish 14 gave only a minor advantage.
Stockfish 14 says:
17... Nf7
(17. .. Nf7 (♘h6-f7 ♗f2-g3
♗d6xg3 ♘e2xg3 ♘d7-f6 ♖f1-f2 ♘f7-d6 b2-b3 ♕g5-h4 ♘g3-f1 h7-h5 g4xh5 ♘f6xh5
♗g2-h1 ♖e8-e6 ♖f2-h2 ♕h4-g5+ ♕d2-g2 ♕g5-e7 ♕g2-f2 ♘d6-f5 ♖e1-e2 ♗g6-e8
f3-f4 ♘h5-g3 ♘f1xg3 ♘f5xg3 ♖e2-e1 ♖e6-g6 ♗h1-g2 ♗e8-d7 e3-e4 d5xe4 ♖e1-e3
♘g3-f5 ♖e3xe4 ♕e7-d6 ♖h2-h3 ♕d6-f6 ♖h3-d3 ♖g6-h6 ♘c3-e2) +2.79/32 413) score for Black +2.79 depth 32. |
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| Aug-22-21 | | nalinw: Fitting Sunday puzzle ... as usual the "engine" here does not see the move - but immediately evaluates things in Black's favour once it is made ... |
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Aug-22-21
 | | al wazir: Page 2 repeats the comments that were on page 1. |
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Aug-22-21
| | al wazir: If 20. Rf2, then 20...Bxg3 21. Nxg3 Qxg3+ 22. Rg2 Nxg2 (not 22...Qxf3 23. Rf2 Qg3+ 24. Kh1) 23. Rxe8+ Bxe8 24. Qxg2 Qxg2+ 25. Bxg2. Black is three ♙s up. |
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Aug-22-21
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Too much for me poor old and old poor brain. 3/7 for the "weak." |
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Aug-22-21
 | | Teyss: As <Brenin> says, not the best moves played on either side like yesterday, but dynamic combination nonetheless. In the end I was wondering why the BR was not coming to the rescue but it has no good square e.g. 27.Re2 (27.Qxg2 Qxg2+ 28.Kxg2 Kxe8 is lost with the 2 Ps on the Kside): both 27...Nf4+ and Nh4+ win. So in the end the WR is completely offside and the WQ is alone to defend against mating threats starting with 29...Nfg4 or Qf3+ depending on what White plays first. White will have to exchange the Q for a BN. |
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Aug-22-21
 | | agb2002: Black has the opportunity of weakening the white castle with 17... Nxg4 18.fxg4 Qxg4. However, White has the maneuver Nf4 and Qd1 forcing the trade of queens or dislodging the black queen. Another option is 17... Rxf3 18.Bxf3 Nxg4 but after 19.Bg3, to block the g-file and b8-h2 diagonal and clear the second rank, the position looks rather unclear. For example, 19... Nxe3 20.Bg2 Bxg3 (20... Nxf1 21.Qxg5) 21.Nxg3 Qxg3 22.Rf3. A less bloodthirsty option is 17... Nf7 followed by h5. I'd probably play 17... Nf7 on the board. |
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Aug-22-21
 | | chrisowen: Diminish divebomb Rf3 flusher aka amalgamate vilify kaputz it low elvira vilify diminish divebomb flippers trusts oak baccy way vigilant fig mandate vilify zilch juvenile it persist vilify hay u knight found djs vilify yeah it fact agains focum effective change off vilify evicts totadd double huffle vilify dice it fine nice it sacrifice guv papillon it football hem in it varsity again volume leafs through it pages bubble evasive yes happy chappy it golf it peas tripling it gravity it bishop elvira c Rf3 bite; |
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Aug-22-21
| | chrisowen: Frankenstein's Bride no? |
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Aug-22-21
| | chrisowen: Clucky no egg x |
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Aug-22-21
 | | Breunor: Nalinw, according to Stockfish black is better after the text move but only at -.86. But on Nf7 black's advantage is -1.76. Losing move seems to be 20 Kh1. |
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