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Erdos vs Lichtner
"Erdos Number 1" (game of the day Jul-13-2009)
Vienna (1922), Vienna AUT
Blackmar-Diemer Gambit: Gedult Gambit (D00)  ·  1-0

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Jul-13-09
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  al wazir: <MAJ: what is your Erdös number?> Under the rather lax criteria used for Erdös numbers of the first kind I think it's no higher than 4, but I'm not sure.
Jul-13-09
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  SwitchingQuylthulg: <al wazir: Whose pun is this?>

Mine...

Jul-13-09
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  kevin86: Cavaliers really dominate this one.
Jul-13-09  Chessmensch: <kellmano> and everyone: The book you mention "THE MAN WHO LOVED ONLY NUMBERS: THE STORY OF PAUL ERDOS AND THE SEARCH FOR MATHEMATICAL TRUTH" was written by Paul Hoffman who also wrote the following worthwhile book on chess: "King's Gambit: A Son, A Father, and the World's Most Dangerous Game."
Jul-13-09
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  MrMelad: Hello all, Paul Erdos was the most prolific mathematician since Leonard Euler, he wrote hundreds of articles many of them with colleagues. He is hailed as one of the best mathematicians in the twentieth century. He was a very odd individual, once he donated his entire award except for about 723.59$ (I don't remember the exact figure) which he calculated to the cent that it is what he needed for the next month. He didn't know how to tie his own shew laces, he was addicted to Amphetamines, he didn't have his own house and moved from one colleague's house to another and he once god arrested by police for street wondering. He called little children Epsilons and god the great dictator. His biography is one of the most interesting I have ever read and I recommend it even to people who are not interested in mathematics.
Jul-13-09
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  MrMelad: <Chessmensch> Yep! That's the book I meant, you beat me by a few minutes :)
Jul-13-09  bimwi: very nice game!
Jul-13-09  schroedingers cat: Nice pun :)
Jul-13-09
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  Domdaniel: Shouldn't this game be <Erdos number ½>? If Erdos himself (E) has an E-number = 0, and his opponent (O) has E = 1, then the game, G, is E-number:

E(G) = [E(E) + E(O)]/2

E(G) = (1 + 0)/2 = ½

Jul-13-09  SirChrislov: <Domdaniel> mind boggling mathematics.
Jul-13-09
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  Domdaniel: Non-mathematicians (including me) can play a chess variant of the Erdos-number game (which also maps onto the 'n degrees of separation' or 'Kevin Bacon game' with actors).

The idea is to find how many wins (or draws, or just games/opponents) you are away from Kasparov, or Fischer, or Carlsen.

I've played people who've played Kasparov and Carlsen - no problem there. Fischer is more of a stretch. Though I drew with a guy who beat Karpov ...

If restricted to wins ... I beat somebody who beat somebody (Keogh) who beat somebody (Stahlberg) -- who is a useful node, as his wins stretch from Nimzowitsch to Smyslov (who beat Kasparov)....

Players with long careers and dynamic styles are useful for obvious reasons.

Jul-13-09  kingfu: popski, thanks for bringing Bronstein into this discussion. I read that Bronstein pondered over the board for 40 minutes ON MOVE 1 for one particular game!!!!!!! Take that Rybka! There is always the diatribe about the one person which you would have dinner. It would be Tal! Especially after drinking much Vodka and smoking many cigarettes! MrMelad, thanks for the Erdos biograph. I must read it! Where?
Jul-13-09  kingfu: Domdaniel, I got a draw with Rossolimo (yes, Nicolas Rodssolimo) one time. What is my Erdos number?
Jul-13-09
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  chessgames.com: <al wazir: Whose pun is this? "Erdös number" refers to the famous Hungarian mathematician Paul Erdös > SwitchingQuylthulg gets the credit for this ingenious pun and a wonderful game to match it. It was probably just a little too obscure of a reference to win the Pun Contest, but it certainly deserves it's day in the limelight.
Jul-13-09  Eduardo Leon: Nice pun!
Jul-13-09  WhiteRook48: no, 17 Qh7+ is the Gedult
Jul-13-09  just a kid: Beautiful mate!
Jul-14-09  dzechiel: Pretty from beginning to end.
Jul-14-09
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  Domdaniel: <kingfu> - <What is my Erdos number?> I can't tell ... but if you check the databases for Rossolimo games and find people that *he* drew or beat, you'll make connections ... he played Fischer, didn't he?

I drew with Tony Miles once, admittedly in a simul. There must be people, perhaps several of them, who played both Rossolimo and Miles, so there should be a three-step draw-link between us. Quinteros, maybe?

It'd probably be easier just to say "Hey, Kingfu ... would you like a draw?"

I just did a quick check, and found that Rossolimo was still active in the 1970s ... so his opponents range from Capablanca in the 1930s, through Euwe, Tartakover, Bogolyubov, Kotov (all in the 1940s/50s) up to the Skopje Olympiad in '72. One of his opponents there was later beaten by me, so I've got a 2-link.

Unfortunately, Rossolimo lost to Capa. But in 1949 he beat both Tartakower and Bogolyubov, which lead to pretty much anywhere. Via the Alekhine-Bogo World Title match, you've beaten a guy who's beaten a guy who beat Alekhine. Not so bad ...

Mar-19-11
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  Sacrificial King: Opening of the day today, the knight pair is lethal here at the finish. Beautiful
Jun-27-11  paburche: I disagree with your assessment of Erdõs, JOHN BOY. I believe Erdõs could've pursued any path he wanted to, up to a certain age! It's just that his path shined so bright, mathematically speaking, that he had no choice but to be consumed by it! After all, being the best at any subject that is academically worthy carries a weight most simply don't understand. Before you dismiss him read about his political views! Him and Fischer are WORLDS apart! I would've LOVED to have met the man and talked Spinoza with him at length! But alas....

Paul
Erdõs number 4

Dec-28-17  Saniyat24: Oh what a brilliant final position, with two white knights and the Queen....that must have been a horrifying experience for Lichtner...!
Jan-14-19  Isilimela: An exquisite position after 15 Nf6 ! Erdos knights errant.
Jan-10-20  Pyrandus: Erdös, the Interesting Player.
Jan-10-20  Brenin: Paul Erdos was born in 1913, so if this was him playing white, he was only 8 or 9 at the time. I met him at maths conferences a few times, and had some pleasant conversations with him, but sadly I couldn't interest him in my kind of mathematics, or adapt to his, so my Erdos number is 2. I never knew he had any interest in chess, but he was quite useful at table-tennis.
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