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Iivo Nei vs Mikhail Tal
"Taking I Nei" (game of the day May-20-2022)
Tallinn (1971), Tallinn URS, rd 13, Mar-09
Benoni Defense: Modern Variation (A56)  ·  0-1



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  OhioChessFan: <Teyss: Hello, pun helpdesk?>

I assume "Taking a knee", an American football tactic at the end of a won game.

May-20-22  goodevans: I'm not familiar with this line of the Benoni and 8...Qa5 struck me as a bit of a waste of time. The pin is easily broken by either 9.Bd2 or 9.Nd2 or White can continue development with 9.Bd3. In all three cases White looks fine but the Black Q looks out of place. I was surprised then to find that 8...Qa5 is by far the most popular choice in this position. Maybe a practitioner of this line would be so kind as to enlighten me why.

As for the pun, I'm mystified by that too but I suspect that in that case I'm missing something more obvious.

May-20-22  goodevans: Ah, <OCF> supplied an answer to my second question as I was typing it. It's a bit of a stretch but I'm sure he's right. If so then this is one of Missy's poorer efforts.
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  Teyss: <OhioChessFan> Thanks, would never have figured it out.
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  MissScarlett: My understanding is that it usually happens at the start of football games.
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  OhioChessFan: Indeed, taking a knee for the National Anthem is a disgusting act of virtue signaling, done before a game.
May-20-22  tonsillolith: <OhioChessFan: Indeed, taking a knee for the National Anthem is a disgusting act of virtue signaling, done before a game.>

Are you for real, my good Sir? "Disgusting"?

I take it you're either being facetious or you often find yourself swept away by your strong emotions.

May-20-22  mrknightly: As a former US high school and college football player from the 1960's, I feel the need to comment on the "pun." The term "take a knee" was used when I was playing when a coach allowed players to take a rest from practice. Often times it would be after an especially hard exercise, such as wind sprints. The coach would say, "Bring it in, and take a knee." And, as <OCF> said, it has become a disgraceful act of protest during the playing of our National Anthem.
May-20-22  Saniyat24: need a bad pun for good Mikhail Tal games-game collections...!
May-20-22  goodevans: Patriotic gestures, like standing during your national anthem or raising a national flag, are just that - gestures. They are not patriotism itself although the two are often conflated.

Likewise, gestures of protest, like taking the knee, when forced upon the unwilling by moral blackmail also become mere gestures. They cease to become an effective form of protest.

I don't care much for either sort of gesture.

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  MissScarlett: Gestures are gestures - who knew?
May-20-22  spingo: In the UK we have a different phrase: <"Kneeling down">.
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  MissScarlett: That typically involves both knees. A single knee would be a genuflection.
May-20-22  Z free or die: A genuflection is a dynamic, not a static.
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  MissScarlett: Not if you're tying a shoelace.
May-20-22  Z free or die: Haha  
May-20-22  Z free or die: Haha (of course then it's not a genuflection, but a "tying a shoelace" move)
May-20-22  goodevans: Amazing how such an iffy pun can generate so much noise. I'll admit to being guilty on that score too.
May-20-22  Z free or die: <Amazing how such an iffy pun can generate so much noise. I'll admit to being guilty on that score too.>

One man's noisette is another man's noisome.

Personally, I would have preferred the pun <Livo was livid>, however weak that be.

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  MissScarlett: It's <Iivo> not <Livo>.
May-20-22  Z free or die: Font glitch on my part... but I'm not alone:

<Spassky had a training session before he left for Reykjavik. He had some problems in making (putting together) his team and making last minute preparations, so he wasn't concentrating so much on chess. I stayed at the training session two weeks, and almost every day Spassky was going to Moscow and coming back. It was near Moscow, like 60 km from Moscow, but he had to go to the city every day, so you can't concentrate. We were analyzing a lot. (Efim) Geller was there. Then, (Nikolai) Krogius was there, then Livo Nei, so that was his team. >


May-20-22  thegoodanarchist: <Z free or die: Font glitch on my part...>

"Font Glitch" would be a cg good user name.

May-20-22  Sally Simpson: The pun writes itself in the header. I. Nei v M. Tal.
May-20-22  Brenin: <Sally Simpson>: Alternatively, "I mate in vi".
May-20-22  newzild: I do love it when Tal brings home the bacon after a 'Tal-like sacrifice'.

The computer has White winning four moves before the end.

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