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| Sep-03-07 | | TheaN: Oh, wouldn't you say, I had the idea right. But I did start with the bishop check. But Joe, after 26....Nf5 I did NOT respond with 27.Ne4. Although it is probably the best reply I got stuck on 27.g4?! Bh2+ 28.Kg2! Qg3+ 29.Kh1.... |
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| Sep-03-07 | | Tactic101: Simple deflection and mate. Typical Monday. |
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| Sep-03-07 | | Zzyw: White thought he was playing checkers, not chess, when he was playing the automatic 36. fxe4?? (36. ♕f6!=). Black could have won on the spot with 25...♘f5! attacking both the gaping hole g3 (threat: 26-29...♗h2+, ♘g3+xf1+xd2) and threatening 26...♘xh6 27.♕xh6? ♗f4!  . |
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| Sep-03-07 | | TheaN: <Black could have won on the spot with 25...Nf5! attacking both the gaping hole g3 (threat: 26-29...Bh2+, Ng3+xf1+xd2) and threatening 26...Nxh6 27.Qxh6? Bf4! .> Ouch. I guess 25....Bh2+ is dubious, if Nf5 wins this easily :). Oh wait. No, it's not that easy, 26.Ne4 defends both g3 and the Queen trap: Nxh6 27.Qxh6 Bf4 28.Ng5 f6? 29.Qxg6+  |
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| Sep-03-07 | | Marmot PFL: Harder than the usual Monday, as it took 3 moves instead of 2. if you went back a move and have to find Rxe4 it becomes more interesting. |
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| Sep-03-07 | | ahmadov: Nice. I found it very quickly... |
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| Sep-03-07 | | willyfly: Black is down two ♙s - OMG! it's NOT a ♕ sac!
36... ♖d1+ 37 ♗xd1 ♕f1+ 38 ♔h2 ♕xg2#
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Sep-03-07
 | | Peligroso Patzer: <BishopofBlunder: Whatzis? An Irish variation of an Italian opening played by a Russian? *** > Just to confuse matters a little more, Alberic O'Kelly de Galway was actually a Belgian with an Irish name. |
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Sep-03-07
| | Peligroso Patzer: <MostlyAverageJoe: *** I wonder - is there any worse 36-th move that white could make? He must have been in deep time trouble.> You are probably correct that White was in time trouble. He could have held with 36. ♕f6, but that is not such an easy move to find if White was indeed short of time. As to whether 36. fxe4 was the worst move that White could have made, all White alternatives (other than 36. ♕f6=) seem to be totally losing. With 36. ♖a1 (among other moves) White could have avoided an immediate checkmate, but Black could have kept his extra Rook with the simple 36. … ♖ed4. After those moves, for Black's extra Rook White would have had two extra pawns -- and they even would have been connected passers -- but being not far advanced (on b2 and c4), those pawns would have given White no semblance of adequate compensation for Black’s extra Rook. Given that White was probably in significant time pressure (severe enough to prevent him from finding 36. ♕f6=), the logical choice was to take the Rook. If Taimanov had also overlooked the mate (and such oversights do occur even to GMs, especially when in time pressure), White could have got himself back in the game by taking Black’s extra Rook on move 36. Given that he did not see 36. ♕f6=, White’s choice of 36. fxe4 was probably his best practical chance . . . and when Taimanov did see the mate, White’s suffering was at least cut short! |
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| Sep-03-07 | | Fezzik: I suppose this is a fitting Labor Day puzzle because White's Bishop is overworked! |
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Sep-03-07
 | | playground player: They tried to fool us by not requiring a Queen sac on a Monday...tsk, tsk. |
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| Sep-03-07 | | skemup: 1/1 im master of mondays :) |
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| Sep-03-07 | | YouRang: Nice 'n easy mate in threesy.
<Fezzik: I suppose this is a fitting Labor Day puzzle because White's Bishop is overworked!> Good point! I wonder why <chessgames.com> doesn't have a labor day logo at the top like they do on Thanksgiving and Halloween, etc.? Of course, it's not so obvious what the Labor Day logo should depict. Maybe a barbeque? Or some gloomy kids getting ready to go back to school? |
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| Sep-03-07 | | psmith: <aazqua> I disagree. This is a fine tactic for beginners. And I take Monday puzzles to be for beginners. If you don't like them, just skip Mondays. |
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Sep-03-07
 | | fm avari viraf: A good manoeuvring tactics by Taimanov that won him the exchange as well as the game with the simple deflection theme in the end. |
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| Sep-03-07 | | znprdx: Yes 36.f3xe4[R] is hard to believe> the only thing interesting about this position is (as suggested by a couple of people)36. Qf6 I'm curious as to whether or it might even be winnable in the majority of routine lines -after all White has Bishop over Knight and 2 connected passed pawns worth the rook if they get to the 6th :) but I suppose Black isn't hurting for counterplay - and since his pawns will be on black - I guess the draw is inevitable. |
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| Sep-03-07 | | notyetagm: The star move is 35 ... ♖e5x♘e4!. Taimanov sees that the White f3-pawn, attacked by the Black f4-queen, is <PINNED> against the f1-square. If the White f3-pawn leaves the f-file (36 f3xe4), then the Black f4-queen will be able to attack the f1-square while the Black d8-rook attacks the d1-square, <OVERWORKING> the White e2-bishop which must <DEFEND> =both= of d1- and f1-checking focal points. |
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| Sep-03-07 | | patzer2: Today's puzzle solution leads to mate in three after the decoy sacrifice 36...Rd1+! |
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Sep-03-07
 | | kevin86: Labor Day and CG is putting us to work! Mate in three!! Also a rook sac and a queen mate. OK,it was a simple procedure to mate. |
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| Sep-03-07 | | Some call me Tim: 36. Qe6 does appear to draw. Did Taimanov just know this was a fallback or did he have some brilliant way to avoid perpetual? I have tried many things including Q Qg3 and Qd6 but White can keep checking (and mating of Black is not careful), or just equalizing if Qs come off. This could be a time trouble trap and if so it is a pretty good one, although not difficult to solve in the diagrammed position with the benefit of Black's move. If given three seconds in White's position on move 36 it would be more difficult to avoid fxe4 although I would expect a grandmaster to see the mate even in blitz time. |
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| Sep-03-07 | | Some call me Tim: Sorry I meant Qf6 appears to draw. |
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| Sep-03-07 | | Monkey King: Ah, a great game from the creater of the Taimanov Scicilian, although he didn't play it in this game ): |
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| Sep-03-07 | | MostlyAverageJoe: <TheaN: Oh, wouldn't you say, I had the idea right. But I did start with the bishop check. But Joe, after 25....Nf5 I did NOT respond with 27.Ne4. Although it is probably the best reply I got stuck on 26.g4?> You got number moves off by 1 - this has been corrected in the quote. I should've mentioned in my solution that there are a number of other pretty good responses (which contribute to the Sat/Sun estimated difficulty). In addition to 26.Ne4, Kh1, Rfd1 and Qe1 are almost as good for white. Your g4 is somewhat worse - after Bh2+, if black plays Kg2, then Nde3+ wins the queen. And if black plays Kg1, then the line might be: 25. .. Nf5 26. g4 Bh2+ 27. Kh1 Ng3+ 28. Kg2 Nxf1 29. Rxf1 Bf4 30. Qe1 Ne3+ 31. Kh1 Bxh6 again, clearly lost. |
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| Sep-04-07 | | TheaN: <You got number moves off by 1 - this has been corrected in the quote.> Actually, I didn't: what I messed up was my own line: I said I used 25....Bh2+ first, thus 26.Kh1 Nf5 -> 27.g4. However, then it's impossble to play Bh2, and the King is already at h1, thus the move 27,5 - 28,5 in my line are impossible, and Black could play 27....Ng3+ and win. g4 was meant as a reply to Nf5 immediately, it seems, however, it does fail indeed to: 25....Nf5 26.g4 Bh2+ 27.Kg2 (Kh1 Ng3+ etc) Nde3+ 28.Qxe3 (Kh1 Ng3+ etc) and wins. |
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| Aug-27-12 | | hugogomes: Instead of 33... Re5, Taimanov should be ready to play Rxe4 right away, because after 35... Rxe4, white has 36. Qf6! which threatens Qxg6+ with perpetual, or QxR. A misscalculation which ended well. |
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