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Richard Teichmann vs Rudolf Spielmann
"Mann's Inhumanity To Mann" (game of the day Jul-28-2021)
Munich (1909), Munich GER
Queen Pawn Game: Krause Variation (D02)  ·  1-0

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Dec-14-18  fkohn: It took me a minute to get the point. On 17...gxf6 18. Qg3+ Kh8 19. Qh4 Black must give up his Queen to prevent mate.
Jul-19-20
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  fredthebear: So Black does not like 17...gxBf6.

If 17...QxBf6, then 18.QxBb7 and White is up a piece.

If 17...BxQf3, then 18.BxQe7 and White is up a piece.

Jul-19-20  hdcc: manno a manno.
Jul-28-21  Brenin: An interesting finish. After Bxf6 gxf6, it is standard for White's Q and LSB to take aim at h7, but I don't recall seeing the usual response f5 being neutralised in this way.
Jul-28-21
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  GrahamClayton: John Arlott was one of the most revered and respected cricket commentators of all-time. One of his most memorable comments came during a Test match in 1947 when the South African left arm spinner Tufty Mann was causing the England batsman George Mann all sorts of problems with his bowling, by the movement of the ball off the pitch, and Arlott quietly and drolly uttered: “What we have here is a clear case of Mann’s inhumanity to Mann”, referring to the words of the 18th century Scottish poet Robert Burns: “Man’s inhumanity to man makes countless thousands mourn!”
Jul-28-21
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  HeMateMe: I still don't understand the pun....maybe we can settle it over a pint of Fosters at the pub?
Jul-28-21
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  GrahamClayton: <HeHateMe>
I still don't understand the pun....maybe we can settle it over a pint of Fosters at the pub?

<HeHateMe>
Both player's surnames end in "Mann".

Jul-28-21  andrewjsacks: Well done on the pun.
Jul-28-21  erimiro1: 17.- g:f6 18. Qg3/4+ Kh8 19. Qh4 and this is it. 19. - f5 20. Q:Qe7
Jul-28-21  newzild: <GrahamClayton> If we're going to talk cricket quotes, then I prefer the one Brian Johnston made when Michael Holding was bowling to Peter Willey:

"The bowler's Holding the batsman's Willey."

Jul-28-21
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  perfidious: The quote posted by <newzild> was surely a charming scene.

Excellent pun.

Jul-28-21  Nosnibor: I just wonder if there is a darker meaning to the pun with reference to the players themselves. Man`s inhumanity to man was often taken to be the treatment of the Jews by the Germans. Taking into account that Spielmann suffered under the Nazi Regime and that Teichmann was born in Germany but died some way before the full ascendancy of Hitler. This is not to say however that he bore any grudges against Jewish opponents.
Jul-28-21  Z truth 000000001: I think it's a classic <CG> word-play pun on the names, but <Graham> could expound a bit if he intended more...
Jul-28-21  Diademas: Hey. A decent pun!
What happened?
Jul-28-21  Diademas: "A Mann, But Not a Safety Mann"
Jul-28-21
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  keypusher: Good tactical lessons in this game. 18.Qg3+ and 19.Qh4 is unobtrusive (even Spielmann missed it) but completely decisive.

SF thinks 15.Rc1 with the idea Nc6 is close to winning (15....Bxe5 16.Bxe5 Rd8 17.Rd7 Bd7 18.Rb7 Qf8 19.Bxf6 gf 20.Bxh7+ and 21.Rxd7, or 15....Bb7 16.Nc6 Bxc6 17.Rxc6 Rfd8 18.Qc2 Bd6 19.Rd1 (stronger than Bxf6 and Bxh7+) h6 20.Be2 to be followed by Bf3, or 15....Nd5 16.Nc6 Qe8 17.Bb1 with a strong attack coming up.

After Teichmann's 15.Qf3, ...Nd5 would have kept Black alive, though still a lot worse. After 15....Bxe5 16.Bxe5, it's too late for 16....Nd5, since White has 17.Qg3 threatening both mate and Bd6.

Interestingly, SF14 thinks 5....Nf6 is an inaccuracy, giving White a clear though small edge for reasons shown in the game. It's always surprising to me how much trouble lurks in quiet symmetrical openings.

Jul-28-21
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  MissScarlett: <One of his most memorable comments came during a Test match in 1947>

Actually, the 1948-49 series in South Africa.

<Taking into account that Spielmann suffered under the Nazi Regime and that Teichmann was born in Germany but died some way before the full ascendancy of Hitler. This is not to say however that he bore any grudges against Jewish opponents.>

Very generous of you. I'm sure he would have taken a knee, but he'd already given an eye.

Jul-28-21
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  GrahamClayton: I based the pun on the John Arlott cricket commentary.
Jul-29-21
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  scutigera: I do remember Alekhine (or "Alekhine") complimenting Teichmann's "very fine chess sensibility" in one of the two notorious articles on Aryan vs Jewish chess published in 1941.
Jul-29-21  areknames: < I still don't understand the pun....maybe we can settle it over a pint of Fosters at the pub?> I don't know about England or the US but hardly anyone drinks Fosters in Australia.

Very nice pun, <GC>, well done.

Jul-29-21
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  HeMateMe: < I don't know about England or the US but hardly anyone drinks Fosters in Australia.>

What about eating 'croc meat and throwing boomerangs? Surely <Crocodile Dundee> wasn't all a hoax?

Jul-29-21
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  OhioChessFan: It's an American sitcom trope to have the characters interpret a piece of modern art as an expression of man's inhumanity to man.
Jul-29-21
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  MissScarlett: It's a British sitcom trope that a man gets locked outside without his trousers.
Aug-02-21
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  HeMateMe: Mostly Fosters haters on this site. Is it the 'Budweiser' of Australia, cheap beer?
Aug-02-21
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  MissScarlett: Makes a change from mostly Fischer haters.

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