Nigel Short vs Jesus Nogueiras (1989) The French Come Short. Jesus is not the Messi-ah

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Nigel Short vs Jesus Nogueiras
"The French Come Short. Jesus is not the Messi-ah" (game of the day Dec-19-2022)
Barcelona World Cup (1989), Barcelona ESP, rd 5, Apr-04
French Defense: Winawer. Poisoned Pawn Variation Main Line (C18) · 1-0

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Dec-19-22		goodevans: A bizarre welding together of two puns. Both pretty decent, and undeniably topical, in their own right. But just one, either, would have sufficed. Decent game, but the game it alludes to was just out of this world.

Dec-19-22		Cheapo by the Dozen: The Short/French pun is much better than the Jesus/Messi one, IMO. That said, finding one game to splice them both into is ... interesting.

Dec-19-22		lentil: <cheapo...> and from a World Cup, no less!

Dec-19-22		An Englishman: Good Evening: Kudos to the person who could find a game and a title so relevant to the World Cup Final so soon. 62.Bb4 looked pretty good, paralyzing the Black Rook against its own pawn.

Dec-19-22		freewheel: Genius title for the game. I cacked myself. Thanks.

Dec-19-22		pawndude88: Pun-pun: keep it Short.

Dec-19-22		FSR: What a thrilling day for the fans! The final of the sporting event of the year, pitting the defending champion against, on the other side, the man who is arguably the GOAT! An incredibly evenly matched contest, it goes down to the wire!! A match for the ages! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djy...

Dec-19-22		thegoodanarchist: <An Englishman: Good Evening: Kudos to the person who could find a game and a title so relevant to the World Cup Final so soon....> And with a game <from> a World Cup, no less. He/she was operating on multiple levels. However, inserting a blasphemy in the game of the day title is worse than disappointing. Many Christians have supported this website over the past 2 decades of its existence. And many still do. Until now I didn't think chessgames.com would resort to blaspheming our Lord. Especially a mere week before the celebration of His birth. It's like cg is <actively> trying to get me to quit supporting them. On purpose even.

Dec-19-22		FSR: LOL. Lighten up, dude. chessgames makes jokes about other nonexistent figures too, such as Santa Claus.

Dec-19-22		MissScarlett: <Until now I didn't think chessgames.com would resort to blaspheming our Lord.> Please observe our posting guidelines: <Do not degrade Chessgames or any of its staff/volunteers.> I think I can safely aver that <cg> takes no official position on the existence or divinty of Jesus. Likewise, the war in Ukraine, the Carlsen-Niemann affair, or sporting matters in general (go the Packers!).

Dec-19-22		mrknightly: The posting guidelines also say: No profane language. "Profane" is defined as language marked by contempt or irreverence for what is sacred. So, how is the game of the day title not profane? Or how is FSR's veiled comment about the non-existence of Jesus not profane? Can we expect future game of the day titles to profane other faiths?

Dec-19-22		MissScarlett: <No profane language. "Profane" is defined as language marked by contempt or irreverence for what is sacred.> Profane in this sense means swearing. There's only one flooker on this site who has a special dispenation. <Can we expect future game of the day titles to profane other faiths?> If the <goodanarchist>, as a good Catholic, denies that the Prophet Muhammad was divinely inspired is that, too, profane?

Dec-19-22		FSR: <mrknightly> Jesus exists. He does a great job on my lawn. Also Mr. Nogueiras, and many others. https://www.chessgames.com/perl/che...

Dec-19-22		offramp: <"Jesus is not the Messi-ah"> might have been quite a good title for the GOTD. But then <Lachacal> sellotaped on the bit about the French, and then the compulsory mention of Short, and then the whole thing became a bit of a dog's dinner.

Dec-19-22		mrknightly: <MissScarlett> “To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.” G.K. Chesterton <FSR> “Do not be so open-minded that your brains fall out." G.K. Chesterton

Dec-19-22		MissScarlett: Think of it more as a trifle - you can't resist sprinkling hundreds and thousands on top even though you've already piled in cream, custard, jelly, sherry, biscuit, mandarin segments, etc.

Dec-19-22		MissScarlett: <mrknightly> should answer a question asked in good faith: <If the <goodanarchist>, as a good Catholic, denies that the Prophet Muhammad was divinely inspired is that, too, profane?>

Dec-19-22		mrknightly: <MissScarlett> Yes. "I like the way you always manage to state the obvious with a sense of real discovery." Gore Vidal

Dec-19-22		MissScarlett: <mrknightly>, do you deny that the Prophet Muhammad was divinely inspired?

Dec-19-22		Stonehenge: I believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Please, do not make any jokes about Pasta or I'll be offended.

Dec-19-22		mrknightly: <MissScarlett> What I believe or don't believe is irrelevant to the question at hand. If you are asking if such a statement is profane, my answer is, yes, it is profane.

Dec-19-22		MissScarlett: <mrknightly>, are you suggesting that posting guideline #1 is meant to prohibit theological disputation on this site?

Dec-19-22		perfidious: <Stonehenge: I believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster....> I, sir, do not; time to blow the whistle! Hahahahaha!

Dec-19-22		mrknightly: I don't think that posting guideline #1 would prohibit such a discussion, but I think it would be highly inappropriate. You appear to be, as we say in the US, moving the goal post, i.e., changing the focus of the discussion. The question at hand is two-fold: 1) Was the statement, "Jesus is not the Messi-ah" profane? 2) if it was profane, was it appropriate to post on cg.com? My response is that, yes, it was profane, and no, as such, it should not have been posted. Since we obviously have a difference of opinion, and you are the gatekeeper and I am not, let's end this discussion, and go about our daily routines. So, adios, and Merry Christmas.

Dec-19-22		Sally Simpson: MissScarlett has ruined Christmas. Yet again another good game has been overwhelmed by a pun discussion. In 1989 (Messi was two years old) Nigel was on the cusp of playing the best chess of his career. Here he uses his King as the fighting piece. click for larger view The White King then leaves the King side, wanders back into the centre to infiltrate on the Queen side. (White to move) click for larger view Hi FSR; <chessgames makes jokes about other nonexistent figures too, such as Santa Claus.> The unintentional coincidence is Jesus Nogueiras was born in Santa Clara, Cuba.

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