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| Jan-25-08 | | D4n: This is simple if you take it in small steps, you need to distance the king from the rook or knight, rook to Ra2+ then get the knight, and sacrifice it and go from there.. |
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| Jan-25-08 | | xrt999: In the chessmaster database, there are some additional moves played:
49.Kc2 Rxd1 50.Kxd1 Kxb2 according to chessmaster
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| Jan-25-08 | | johnlspouge: <MostlyAverageJoe>, my lines for today's second-best move might (as always) be in error, but am I correct in assuming that a computer would have a tough time finding a win involving the lengthy N tour my post suggested? <dzechiel>, you think <you> are embarrassed?!? In future, I will remember that failure is always an option. |
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Jan-26-08
 | | OBIT: Playing around with this position for an hour or so, I'm 99% convinced 46...Rxb1 47. Kxb1 Kb3 48. Be1 Na3+ 49. Kc1 Nc2 also wins, mainly because of the hideous lack of mobility for White's minor pieces. The quick wins come after (a) 50. Bf2 Nxb4! 51. cxb4 Bxb4, and White is helpless against ...c3 followed by ...c2, or (b) 50. Kd2 Nxb4! 51. cxb4 Bxb4+ 52. Ke2 53. Bxe1 Kxe1 54. c3, and again White is dead after ...c2. That leaves (c) 50. Bd2, in which case Black resorts to slow strangulation. The winning plan is to shift operations to the kingside by 50...g5! If White does not take the pawn, Black can continue with ...g4, followed by ...h5 and ...h4. If White does play 51. fxg5, then Bxg5 followed by ...h5 and ...h4. I figure, one of the following has to happen: (1) The Black bishop gets to h4, when ...Ne1 followed by ...Nf3 puts White in zugzwang. (2) The Black pawn on g3 becomes isolated or backward. In this case, the bishop wins the pawn and again gets to the h4-e1 diagonal. (3) The White pawns get to h3 and g4, when ...Bh4! forces the promotion of one of these pawns. Is there a defense for White?
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Jan-26-08
| | OBIT: Adding to my previous comment, here is a sample continuation that I think is interesting. After 46...Rxb1 47. Kxb1 Kb3 48. Be1 Na3+ 49. Kc1 Nc2 50. Bd2 g5 51. fxg5 Bxg5 52. Kb1 h5 53. Kc1 h4 54. gxh4 Bxh4 55. Kb1 Ne1 56. Bxe1 Bxe1 57. Kc1, reaching the following position:
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At first glance, it may appear that White's h-pawn is too dangerous to allow Black to pick off the c-pawn, but that is not the case: 57...Bxc3! 58. Nxc3 Kxc3 59. h4 f4! and wins the king and pawn endgame: (a) 60. h5 f3 61. Kd1 Kd3 62.Ke1 c3, or (b) 60. exf4 e3 61. Kd1 Kd3 62. h5 e2+ 63. Ke1 c3. In either line, Black wins by one tempo. |
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Feb-11-11
 | | HeMateMe: Chessdotcom has an article on this game, how to make a plan to win a position like this; etc. Pretty clever. The ugly Knight that can't get into the game becomes undefendable. I had not played through this before; i thought at some point black would sac the Bishop for two pawns on the queen side and shove a pawn home, escorted by his King, after trading off the rooks. |
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| Feb-12-11 | | newzild: The position after 47. Rb2 would make a nice Tuesday - Wednesday puzzle. Excellent endgame by Fischer, who made it look easy. The following article shows how a difficult the endgame really was: http://www.chess.com/article/view/f... |
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| Feb-12-11 | | BarcelonaFirenze: Yes, it seems Nigel Short asked his opponent (who was beating him all the time in internet blitz games) who was Norman Acevedo... The answer was "Siegen 1970". Therefore, Short claimed he had been playing Fischer. Fischer denied this later on. |
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| Aug-10-12 | | Garech: Great crush from Fischer!
-Garech |
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| Aug-10-12 | | ughaibu: Are you sure about that?
-Garech |
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| Aug-10-12 | | I play the Fred: Awesome!
-Garech |
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| Aug-10-12 | | ughaibu: Oi!
-Garech |
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| Aug-10-12 | | ughaibu: What an incredibly boring game.
-Garech |
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Aug-11-12
 | | perfidious: < jovack: <Here is a recurring theme frequently seen in the kibtiz's of these puzzles> ZOMG I GOT THIS ONE IN 8.3114 seconds!!!! That means I've solved 93 puzzles in a row.. man I'm on a roll, and I thought I was just average, but apparently, I'm pretty good, like, I'm a Super GM or something.
No one cares people...>
Recurring theme is an understatement.
As I failed to see this within five nanoseconds, my place in Kibitzer Hell awaits. |
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| Aug-11-12 | | RookFile: White had a bad dark squared bishop and lost control of the a file. That's all Fischer needed to win. |
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Aug-11-12
 | | harrylime: Usual Fischer 'haters' all present and correct I see ! lol |
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| Sep-07-20 | | Chesgambit: d2 bishop is so bad Nxc3!! |
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| Sep-07-20 | | Chesgambit: 46...Rxb1 better
OBIT: Adding to my previous comment, here is a sample continuation that I think is interesting. After 46...Rxb1 47. Kxb1 Kb3 48. Be1 Na3+ 49. Kc1 Nc2 50. Bd2 g5 51. fxg5 Bxg5 52. Kb1 h5 53. Kc1 h4 54. gxh4 Bxh4 55. Kb1 Ne1 56. Bxe1 Bxe1 57. Kc1, reaching the following position:click for larger view
At first glance, it may appear that White's h-pawn is too dangerous to allow Black to pick off the c-pawn, but that is not the case: 57...Bxc3! 58. Nxc3 Kxc3 59. h4 f4! and wins the king and pawn endgame: (a) 60. h5 f3 61. Kd1 Kd3 62.Ke1 c3, or (b) 60. exf4 e3 61. Kd1 Kd3 62. h5 e2+ 63. Ke1 c3. In either line, Black wins by one tempo. |
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May-12-21
 | | kingscrusher: I was wondering why there was so much kibitzing for this game - it is mentioned as part of that Fischer playing on ICC hoax. |
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May-12-21
| | perfidious: Fischer having a go on ICC is a new angle to me, and on this site I figured I had heard every possible idea, come to the great man. |
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| Apr-26-23 | | Petrosianic: <BarcelonaFirenze>: <Yes, it seems Nigel Short asked his opponent (who was beating him all the time in internet blitz games) who was Norman Acevedo... The answer was "Siegen 1970". Therefore, Short claimed he had been playing Fischer. Fischer denied this later on.> The Fake Fischer turned out to be a Canadian Sysop who confessed when confronted about it. Chessbase did an article about it a couple of years ago... https://en.chessbase.com/post/the-t.... |
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Apr-26-23
| | perfidious: The openings of--perhaps--a 700 player, combined with fantastic tactical ability. Reminds me of the incomparable Stu Ungar, having beaten all comers at gin, offering odds which were unthinkable when facing top-class opponents--the only way he could get action--yet emerging from the lion's den due to his extraordinary recall. |
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| Apr-26-23 | | Petrosianic: People do play that way deliberately sometimes, as a handicap. Recall Nakamura's flirtation with 1. e4 e5 2. Qh5 a few years back. I've seen players open with 1. f3 2. Kf2, and other offbeat Hedgehogs, just to prove they can (or to give themselves an excuse if they lose). I often try to spoil it for them by playing something equally crazy in reply. Even before it was exposed, it obviously wasn't Fischer. Fischer had a performance rating of 2643 in 1992. He didn't improve to beyond his 1972 level without playing for another 10 years. Short just really, really, really wanted to believe he had played Fischer, and so was easily fooled. At least the whole incident made this game famous. |
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| Apr-27-23 | | Granny O Doul: I played the fake Fischer, or maybe it was a fake fake. It must have been a slow day on ICC, because I was on as a guest. He seemed to think I was Short, apparently because of some phrase I used (I don't remember what), and the fact that I managed to win a few times, including a game that began 1. e4 f5 2. ef Kf7 3. d4 Kf6 4. Nf3 Kxf5 5. Ne5. He identified himself as "Ass-am-a from Brooklyn". I sensed that he wasn't any kind of chessplayer since he seemed to think it took a GM to beat that last opening. |
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Dec-22-24
 | | Cosmo Fan: Black breaking the barrier after 47.Rb2
47. ..Nxc3 48.Kxc3, Ra1 49.Kc2, Rxd1
while blacks up a pawn.
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