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| Jan-23-08 | | Gameoverziggy: Penrose did not beat Fischer they drew! |
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| Jan-23-08 | | Petrosianic: We know. He never said differently. |
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| Nov-03-08 | | meloncio: A nice picture of this game on:
http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/...
(Chess Notes #5818) |
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| Nov-05-08 | | paul1959: One may wonder why Penrose did not try 33 d6 , time trouble? |
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| Nov-05-08 | | AnalyzeThis: Great question. He must have thought he was winning the rook and pawn ending anyway, but your 33. d6 appears crushing. |
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| Nov-05-08 | | hrvyklly: <Gameoverziggy> I'm a bit confused as to what you're suggesting... 6.f4 e5 7.Nf3 and then 7...b5? But then White just wins a pawn with 8.fxe5. |
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| Oct-20-12 | | whiteshark: Here's a game related photo: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_bbbntA_2g... (It's probably the same <meloncio>'s now defunct link is leading to.) |
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| Jan-18-13 | | jerseybob: The Holy Grail for 6.f4 players is getting the Bishop on c4,Queen on e2 and pawn on a4. To keep the bishop off c4, black needs an earlier Qc7. Later in his career, Fischer was much stronger against this line. |
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Jan-19-13
 | | perfidious: The response 6....e5 has always been the most popular, but I would have played 6....Qc7 in my Najdorf days, had anyone gone into 6.f4. In the mid 1970s, RHM Publishing released a book on the Najdorf and that author's recommendation was 6....Qc7, intending ....g6 and ....Bg7. |
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| Jan-19-13 | | jerseybob: Perfidious: That's exactly my favorite too |
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| Jun-23-14 | | jerseybob: paul1959 and AnalyzeThis: Odd there aren't more posts, aided by engines, about how Penrose coud've brought the full point home. 33.d6 doesn't quite do it for me, but 33.Rd1,Qe2 34.Qd4,Qb2 35.c4 looks strong. Surely the two united passers outweigh the lone black a-pawn? And I'm surprised that Penrose's missed win hasn't taken on the epic quality in British chess lore that Fischer's missed win against Botvinnik did in America. Maybe his later win vs. Tal eased that pain? |
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| Jul-08-15 | | Howard: According to Mueller's book, Penrose should have won this game. |
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| Apr-16-20 | | Terminator123: Jonathan Penrose meritorious performance in this Olympiad. He not only drew with Fischer, but defeated the then World Champion Mikhail Tahl, who, to be honest played below his capacity his preferred Indobenoni Defense. |
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| Apr-16-20 | | Brenin: 33 Qb4 is hard to understand: it allows Black two obvious drawing lines, namely Qxb4 as played or Qxd5. Surely d6 (which could have been played several moves earlier) or Rd1 would have delivered the win? Players in the UK remember Penrose's win against Tal, but tend to forget this missed opportunity. |
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Apr-17-20
 | | Sally Simpson: ***
click for larger view36.Qb4+?? (sic)
"This is incredibly bad 36.d6 wins easily." from 'Draw: The Art of the Half Point in Chess' by Leonid Verkhovsky. It's also an incredibly bad typo. it is not move 36 and it's not a check. https://books.google.co.uk/books?id... Game from the England - USA 1960 Olympiad which finished 2-2. Penrose ½ - ½ Fischer
Golombek 1 - 0 Bisguier
Clarke ½ - ½ Rossolimo
Wade 0-1 Weinstein
Hard to explain 33.Qb4 when even a slob like me following every rule of thumb sees 33.d6 is good here. Of course remembering I am not on the ass-end of a tough game v Fischer and am sitting here with no pressure other than the perennial battle I have with my spell-checker. Thought maybe back here (Black to play)
click for larger viewFischer played 31...Qxd5 instead of 31...Qxa4 so 33.d6 was not on the table. The following game moves after 31...Qxd5 make sense and back then it would been recorded as 31...QxQP or 31...QxRP so the rank number would not appear. But this is a highly unlikely non-runner. Fischer's games are finely combed by everyone, a mistake in notation would have been spotted by now. So we are left with two choices.
Time trouble.
Or maybe Penrose thought with the Queens off is was a comfortable win.
So a blunder and having made a few of them in my time I can relate to that. *** |
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| Jul-22-20 | | phil master: Penrose himself commented on this game in the British chess magazine or in the magazine CHESS(I can not remember which)He confirmed that Fischer's 31st move was Qx d5. Penrose also said he was in great time pressure and therefore agreed to a draw at move 35. He said that Fischer immediately pointed out that white could play 36 b5 and if black plays axb5 white plays a5 with a posibly winning advantage |
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Jul-22-20
 | | harrylime: Fischer was too good for British chess players ... He should not have been playing them. |
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Jul-22-20
 | | MissScarlett: How about Morphy? |
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Jul-22-20
| | harrylime: <<MissScarlett: How about Morphy?>> Morphy v Fischer is the match of chess dreams
Too close to call..
Morphy clues Oooop on the latest hot theory ..and watches some Pascal chess 24 vids lol lol Bobby get's back in the swimming pool and does those gym weights ... Way tooooo close ....
I can't call it. |
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Jul-22-20
| | MissScarlett: I meant.....should Morphy have visited England in 1858 or stayed at home and washed his hair? |
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Jul-22-20
| | harrylime: <<MissScarlett: I meant.....should Morphy have visited England in 1858 or stayed at home and washed his hair?>> He Came
He saw
He came some more
He visited
He came
He conquered
He left.
Echo and the Bunnymen - Seven Seas
https://youtu.be/LbYxP11rbSM |
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Jul-22-20
| | MissScarlett: <Hazz>, I spent Sunday morning scoping out some more Staunton locations around the Chelsea/Brompton area. I think I'm becoming slightly obsessed. #spiritualodyssey |
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| Aug-07-23 | | N.O.F. NAJDORF: I do not understand why the move 33. d6 has been suggested when it is obviously illegal. On the other hand, 29. d6 looks good.
For example:
29. d6 Rcd8 30. d7 Qe6 31. Re1 Qc6 32. Qd4 Kh7 33. Re7 Kg8 34. Rf2 Rb8 35. Rf6 Qc7 36. Rxg6+ |
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Aug-07-23
 | | beatgiant: <N.O.F. NAJDORF> The game score has been corrected. As <Sally Simpson> pointed out above, Black played 31...Qxd5 and not 31...Qxa4 as in the old version (see https://chessgames.com/perl/kibitzi...) |
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| May-29-24 | | ismet: chessgames engine gives c3 in move 27 for white that I choose also. penrose played for draw |
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