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Sep-22-13 | | psmith: (I think that unless forced Black should not play Qh4+ too early. Instead after 21. cxd5 exd5 Black should just play something like ...Nh5, ...Bd7 and ... Rf8, bringing more pieces in. And cxd5 seems just to give the white squared B more influence.) For example, 21. cxd5 exd5 22. Nb1 Nh5 23. Ree1 Be6 24. Qg2 Qh4+ 25. Kg1 Rf8 and I think Black is on top. For example 26. Be2 Rf3! |
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Sep-22-13 | | RandomVisitor: <psmith>21.cxd5 exd5 there is 22.Nc4!? dxc4 23.d5 white gets some counterplay 23...Qh4+ 24.Kg1 c5 25.Qc3 cxb3 26.Qxf6 Qxf6 27.Bxf6 |
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Sep-23-13 | | psmith: <RandomVisitor> That's nice, and helps to explain the preference for 21...cxd5. |
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Sep-23-13 | | andrewjsacks: Fascinating game, should be better known. |
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Sep-23-13 | | psmith: <RandomVisitor> I suppose the difference after 21...cxd5 is that if White tries 22. Nc4?! Black will be able to play 22...dxc4 23. d5 e5 blocking the a1-h8 diagonal... for example 24. bxc4 Bc5 25. Qb3 Nh5 and the attack continues. |
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Sep-28-13 | | RandomVisitor: A final look after 17.Rxh2
 click for larger view Rybka 4.1 x64:
[-0.86] d=26 18.Kxh2 Qxf2+ 19.Kh1 Nf6 20.Re2 Qxg3 <21.c5> Bc7 22.Nc4 Qh4+ 23.Rh2 Bxh2 24.Qxh2 Qxh2+ 25.Kxh2 dxc4 26.bxc4 Kg7 27.Bg2 Bd7 28.Kg3 Re8 29.Rb1 Kg6 30.Kh4 b6 31.cxb6 axb6 32.Rf1 |
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May-17-15 | | Eduardo Bermudez: "A thorough understanding of the typical mating continuations makes the most complicated sacrificial combinations leading up to them not only difficult, but almost a matter of course." Tartakower |
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May-17-15
 | | Dionysius1: Surely "not only NOT difficult..." |
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Apr-10-17 | | bkpov: 31.Bg3 is poor defence. Rd2! |
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Apr-13-20 | | ellenliisbet: Ben Finegold has covered this game here: https://youtu.be/eLXMFXDq94k?t=958 enjoy! |
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Sep-11-21 | | Albertan: Tartakower’s analysis of this game has been posted here: https://www.chess.com/blog/SamCopel... |
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Sep-12-21
 | | keypusher: <bkpov: 31.Bg3 is poor defence. Rd2!> There is no defense at this point. 31.Rd2 Bf3 and White loses. |
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Sep-17-21 | | DouglasGomes: The defensive move here is really 21. c5
After 21. c5! Bc7 22. Nc4! Qh4+ 23. Rh2 Qxh2+ 24. Qxh2 Bxh2 25. Kxh2 [queens have been traded]If 22... Nh5 23. Ne5 and the light-squared bishop and the other rook won't come to the game so soon and we are playing Rg2 If 22... dxc4 23. d5 exd5 24. Qc3 [pinning the knight to the diagonal] Qh4+ 25. Kg1 Kg7 26. Rf2 Bf5
27. Rdd2 d4 28. Qxd4 Rd8 29. Rxf5 Rxd4 30. Bxd4 [game goes on, RR vs Q] It seems however 21. cxd5 Qh4+ 22. Kg1 exd5 is busted for White (SF:-4.97 d40). |
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Jan-18-23 | | Mistertea: 23. Qe1 |
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Jun-11-23 | | Saul Goodman: According to Jeff Sonas’ research, Geza Maroczy was the best player in the world during the period of 1905-1906, and was still a top ten player at the time of this game, although he was 52 years old. |
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Jul-27-24 | | mel gibson: I thought maybe 28. .. Qh2+.
As can be seen there is more than 1 choice that wins.Stockfish 16.1 chooses a different ply to the game: 28. .. Qg5
(28. .. Qg5 (1. ... Qg5 2.Bxg3 Nxg3 3.Rd2 Rxf1+ 4.Qxf1 Nxf1+ 5.Rg2 Qxg2+ 6.Kxg2 Nxe3+ 7.Kg3 Nf5+ 8.Kf2 Nxd4
9.cxd5 exd5 10.Nd2 Nf5 11.Kf1 Kg7 12.b4 Kf6 13.Nb1 h5 14.a4 Kg5 ) +9.64/40 418) score for Black +9.64 depth 40.
If I force SF to follow the game ply:
28. .. Rxf1+
29. Kxf1 (29. Kxf1 (1.Kxf1 e5 2.Bxg3 Nxg3+ 3.Ke1 Bg4 4.dxe5 Nf5+ 5.Kd2 Qg5 6.Re1 Nh4 7.Qg3 Nf3+ 8.Kc3 Nxe1
9.Qxe1 Qxe5+ 10.Kc2 d4 11.Nd2 h5 12.Nf1 c5 13.Kb1 Kh7 14.b4 b6 ) -5.01/45 259) score for White -5.01 depth 45.
If I force SF to play my choice of ply:
28. .. Qh2+
(28. .. Qh2+ 29. Qxh2 (1.Qxh2 gxh2+ 2.Kxh2 Rxf1 3.Nd2 Rf5 4.Bh4 Kf7 5.cxd5 exd5 6.Rg1 Ng7 7.Bg3 Rh5+ 8.Kg2 Bh3+
9.Kf2 Rf5+ 10.Ke2 Rg5 11.Kf2 Nf5 12.Bf4 Rxg1 13.Kxg1 Ke6 14.Kf2 Kd7 ) -3.21/45 171) score for White -3.21 depth 45. |
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Jul-27-24
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Already knew this one back in childhood, lo these many decades ago. Still amazing; 17...Rxh2 ranks amongst the great intuitive sacrifices of all time. |
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Jul-27-24
 | | scormus: I wasn't sure. The text 28 ... Rxf1+ immediately caught my eye but I felt it premature, and the same about ... Qf2+. Eventually I preferred ... e5 or ... Rf3 but could decide which. According SF16, all are playable, and just gives the nod to <mel's> 28 ... Qg5, which I didn't consider, and rates the reply 29 Bd2 better for W than 29 Bxg3?! B's alternative moves, 28 ... e5, ... Rxf1+, and ... Rf3 are rated not far behind followed by the weaker ... Qh2+?! |
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Jul-27-24
 | | chrisowen: I'm wolf x jam eg hop z Rxf1+ aeb oboe aoc jack abluff frazzle aoh jah a fog pug deep Rxf1+ feel |
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Jul-27-24 | | TheaN: Cooked puzzle, once again. <CG>, at least four sensible moves win in this position. In order e5 (-5.5), Qg5 (-5.3), Rf3 (-4.2) and <lastly> Rxf1+ (-3.7). The concept is somewhat similar among them: play e5 somewhere to bring the bishop in, either sac the rook or anchor it on f3, relocate the queen and pile up on the White king. Lines are specific though, so I'd reconsider it as a puzzle. <28....Rxf1+> which I did pick, follows the rather intuitive <29.Kxf1 (Qxf1 Qh2#) e5> threatening Bh3 and White really has two responses to this: 30.Bg3 Nxg3+ -+ is similar to resigning as now Black has a piece back and the attack's still raging and after <30.Kg1 Bg4 -+> decides swiftly, way too many pieces around the White king. Rxf1+ is a move I probably play by intuition. Great game by Tartakower but I wouldn't choose Black's 28 as puzzle... as suggestion going forward, check for multiple winning moves and reconsider if there is and the lines distinctive. |
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Jul-27-24 | | devere: 28...e5 threatening 29...Rxf1+ looks best to me. If 29. Rd2 exd4 30. exd4 Rf3, and White has no good answer to Black's threat of Nf4. |
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Jul-27-24 | | Allderdice83: An incredible finish. I looked at 28 ... Rxf1+!! but didn't see the power of the move 30 ... Bg4!, the point being 31. Rd2 Bf3 32. Qf1 Qh1#, but White can't stave off mate long after 31 ... Bf3 no matter what he tries. Maroczy tries to wriggle out, but Tartakower keeps the threats coming. In the final position, as Agadmator would say, there is nothing left to be done. On 36. Kg1, there is simply 36 ... Nh1+ winning the queen, and on 37. Kh2 Nxf2 38. Rg1, Black unpins and wins with 38 ... Ng4+ and either 39. Rxg4 Qxg4 with mate next move, 39. Kh3 Qh5+ 40. Kg3 Qh2#, or 39. Kg3 Qxe5+ 40. Kh4 (or 40. Kh3 Qh2#) Qh2+ 41. Kg5 Qh6+ 42. Kf5 Qf6#. That last would be a neat end position with the White king corralled in Black's territory |
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Jul-27-24 | | Allderdice83: I checked out 22. Rg2. After 22 ... Qxe3?? 23. Rxg4+ Kf7 24. Qg2! Ng3+ 25. Rxg3 Bxg3 26. Bc1 Qxb3?? (26 ... Qf2 is necessary, though White is still much better), 27. Be2, White is flat-out winning (+4.2). However, Black simply plays 22 ... Qh4+ (or 22 ... Qh3+) 23. Kf1 Bd7 (-1.5) which is about the same evaluation as after 22. Qd2. White can improve with 21. c5 Bb8 22. Qc3 Qh4+ 23. Kg1 h5 24. Rg2 (-0.5). 13 ... Qf6 is a mistake. White can almost equalize with 14. Kg2, setting up to bring a rook to h1. Black should instead play 13 ... Ndf6 14. Bf1 Ng4 15. Re2 Bd7 continuing development. The light-squared bishop will eventually maneuver to h5. Instead of 23. Rf2?, why not 23. Qe1 which is the logical reason to play 22. Qd2? Or, 23. c5 followed by 24. Qe1. 24 ... Bg3? -- 24 ... g3 is crushing. Bg3 puts the bishop where the pawn should be. White should now play 25. Rh2! Qg5 26. Rg2. Black will have to move the bishop out of the way of the pawn, so why not get the pawn to g3 earlier? 28. Be1? is a mistake, after which White is lost -- but not because of 28 ... Rxf1+. Rather, just 28 ... e5 29. Rd2 (29. dxe5?? Rxf1+ 30. Kxf1 Bh3) Qg5 30. Re2 Bg4 31. Nc3 Bxe2 32. Nxe2 Qxe3+ 33. Kh1 exd4 (-4.8). White makes a few further mistakes along the way, but was likely going to lose no matter what he did. |
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Jul-27-24
 | | master8ch: Looking at comments from earlier years, I have to think the position given here is a few moves later in the game. One interesting but unforced continuation is 28...e5 (threatening 29...Bh3 30.Qxh3 Rxf1+ 31.Qxf1 Qh2++.) White, deciding to return the piece for the menacing pawn, plays 29.Bxg3 Nxg3 30.Nd2 Bg4 31.Re1... and now 31...Rf2!! wins: A) 32.Qxf2 Qh1++, and B) 32.Kxf2 Ne2+. and mate next. |
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Jul-27-24 | | mel gibson: < master8ch:One interesting but unforced continuation is 28...e5 > yes - another good possibility -
using Stockfish 16.1 - it says:
(28. .. e5
(29. Rd2 (1.Rd2 exd4 2.Bxg3 Nxg3 3.Rf2 Rf3 4.exd4 Bg4 5.Qh2 Qxh2+
6.Rxh2 Rxf1+ 7.Kg2 Rxb1 8.Kxg3 h5 9.Kf4 Rf1+ 10.Ke5 e3 11.cxd5 cxd5 12.Kxd5
e2 13.Rxe2 Bxe2 14.Kd6 h4 ) -9.63/34 115)
score for White -9.63 depth 34 |
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