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Sep-04-05 | | paladin at large: What - no kibitzing on a game between these titans? Beautiful game by Lasker, menacing first the kingside and then maneuvering to the queenside. I do not like Schlechter's 16. c4 as this allows Lasker to force an exchange on c6 which posts his bishop well there. Schlechter was looking to gain some scope for his dark square bishop, I suppose. In the event, Lasker proceeds to turn it into a very unhappy creature. 21. Qh5 is also no good. |
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Sep-04-05 | | ughaibu: It's interesting that Lasker played f4, so he had experience of this pawn structure well before the Capablanca game. |
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Sep-04-05
 | | tamar: After 33 Rxf4, what happens? Lasker no doubt saw this tactical shot, but what did he have in mind? 33 Rxf4 Rxg2 34 Rg4 Rxg4 35 fxg4 looks good for White. |
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Sep-04-05 | | who: I wonder if the exchange sac was necessary (move 38). Fritz is happy with 38.Qe2 Nxd4 39.Re8+ Kh7 40.Qe4+ Nf5 41.Rf8 Qb5 42.Bd2 |
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Sep-04-05 | | Boomie: <tamar> After 33. Rxf4, white wins. I'm surprised that a fine tactician like Schlecter missed it. |
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Sep-04-05 | | who: 33.Rxf4 Rxg2 and I am not sure how easy the win is. |
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Sep-04-05
 | | beatgiant: I looked at 33. Rxf4 Rd6, but White has 34. c5 exf4 35. cxd6 Qxd6 which looks fine too, although I'm not sure if it wins. |
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Sep-05-05 | | Juan De Pisto: ah, what a nice move 33.c3, with that bishop tan malo, Schlechter ended very confused. Lasker was a killer, isnt? |
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Sep-05-05
 | | tamar: <beatgiant> The 34 Rxf4 Rd6 line is the trickiest, but 35 Rg4 first before c5 might be a clear win. What do you think? It sets up some threats against g7 if Black goes ahead with his pressure against d4. 34 Rxf4 Rd6 35 Rg4 exd4 36 Rxg7+ wins the queen after 36...Kxg7 37 Bxd4+ It keeps White's options open to play either c5 or d5: (34 Rxf4 Rxd6 35 Rg4)
35...Nf6 36 Rg3 Rd7 struck me as the most stubborn line, but White can just play 37 d5 with winning prospects/ pressure on e5 a pawn up. and if Black tries to sidestep the g7+ idea, c5 comes into play: 35...Kh8 36 c5 Nxc5 37 Qc4 Ne6 38 Bb4 Qa4 39 d5 Nf4 40 Qxc7 renews the threat against g7 and keeps White ahead. This last is my favorite variation with the cascade of tactics still going at the finish. |
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Sep-05-05
 | | tamar: <Boomie> Just a guess, but Schlechter may have been hesitant to provoke an unclear tactical skirmish with Lasker after his loss at London with the Giuoco Schlechter vs Lasker, 1899 |
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Sep-05-05 | | Boomie: Here are some of the lines I examined. The Fritz evals aren't definitive in end games. The main line here looks winning for white but maybe it's a draw with the black king in front of the passed pawn. Any endgame specialists out there? 33. ♖xf4 ♖xg2
(33...exf4 34. ♕xg6 ♘f6 35. ♗d2 ♖g5 36. ♕d3 ♕d6 37. c5 ♕c6 38. ♗xf4 ♖h5
39. ♕b3+ (4.66/16))
(33...♖hg5 34. ♖g4 ♖xg4 35. hxg4 ♔h7 36. d5 ♘c5 37. ♕e3 ♘d7 38. ♗xe5 ♕xa2 39. ♕c3 ♘xe5 40. ♖xe5 (2.16/13)) (33...♖d6 34. ♖g4 ♘f6 35. ♖g3 ♖d7 36. d5 ♖e7 37. ♗d2 ♕c5 38. ♕g6 (2.24/14) 34. Rg4 Rxg4 35. fxg4 Rg5 36. Bd2 Qxd3 37. cxd3 Rg6 38. dxe5 (1.50/15) |
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Sep-06-05 | | paladin at large: Appreciate the interesting comments. Regarding 33. Rxf4 and what Schlechter might do or not do, Lasker did not (years later) have a high opinion of Schlechter's tactical prowess, or at least, Lasker did not have the expectation that Schlechter would choose a sharp tactical course. (This from a comparison of Capablanca with Schlechter and Mason in "Mein Wettkampf mit Capablanca", 1922.) |
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Jan-16-08
 | | keypusher: As <ughaibu> pointed out three years ago, this game features Lasker's secret weapon with Black (see Game Collection: Lasker's Secret Weapon). Tricky game where Schlechter had his chances, as per the kibitzes below. |
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Jan-16-08
 | | keypusher: <(This from a comparison of Capablanca with Schlechter and Mason in "Mein Wettkampf mit Capablanca", 1922.)> Not to be rude, but what was Mason doing in such august company? |
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Jan-16-08
 | | tamar: Mason was not an elite player, but showed signs of great talent before he threw it away drinking. I was surprised to see him having Lasker on the ropes during his untouchable period of 1899 and 1900.
J Mason vs Lasker, 1899 |
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Jan-16-08 | | Petrosianic: Depends what you mean. He was never close to winning the world title, but he was a good solid Top 10 player for years. And Chessmetrics lists him as the #1 player for 11 months in 1877 and 1878. |
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Jan-16-08
 | | tamar: Mason was very up and down. Perhaps comparable to Shirov today. He was a good front runner, but didn't handle adversity well. For example after his great run in 1877-1878, he finished -5 at Paris for a 2400 something PR according to Sonas. http://db.chessmetrics.com/CM2/Sing... |
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Jan-16-08
 | | keypusher: Mason played some really beautiful combinations and was a very fine writer as well. But the other two players Lasker is comparing are Schlechter, who drew a WC match with Lasker, and Capablanca, who of course beat him. Mason was not of that caliber, particularly by Lasker's time. I would expect the third player to be Tarrasch or Rubinstein or Maroczy. Even Janowsky or Marshall would be less unexpected. |
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Apr-13-12 | | King Death: < paladin at large: ...Regarding 33. Rxf4 and what Schlechter might do or not do, Lasker did not...have the expectation that Schlechter would choose a sharp tactical course...> If that was Lasker's opinion then he was right in this game for sure. If Schlechter was looking to play it safe he could've considered 33.Bd2 when the ending after 33...Qd3 34.cd looks very good for White. The real fun comes after the pawn snatch 33...Qa2 though with 34.Re5 Ne5 35.de Rgg5 (35...Re6 36.Qd5) 36.e6 and an unstoppable monster. After 35.Re5 it's better to play 34...Re5 35.de Nf8 36.Bb4 but even then it looks like Black's position is barely holding together. |
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Apr-13-12
 | | NM JRousselle: King Death, what are you talking about? Lasker did not play 33 Qa2. If you are suggesting that Qa2 would have been an error, then so state. |
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Feb-18-16
 | | Mateo: <who: I wonder if the exchange sac was necessary (move 38). Fritz is happy with 38.Qe2 Nxd4 39.Re8+ Kh7 40.Qe4+ Nf5 41.Rf8 Qb5 42.Bd2> No. It was just a blunder. Schlechter missed 38...b5. |
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Jun-04-17
 | | KEG: As many on this site have previously shown, Schlechter missed a likely win with 33. Rxf4. I have reviewed the annotations of this game by Rosenthal in the Tournament Book as well as other contemporary annotations by Teichmann and Marco. Although these fine annotators did a good job with most of the intricacies of this game, they all missed 33. Rxf4, as apparently did both Schlechter and Lasker. Indeed, Rosenthal in the Tournament Book praises Schlechter's 33. R4e2 as "Well played." Further proof, if such were truly needed, of the excellence of much of the analysis on this site. Bravo tamar, boomie, beatgiant, and others! Well done. In this post, I will address what occurred before Schlechter's critical 33rd move. I plan to deal with the 33rd move in a subsequent post, and then consider what followed Schlechter's 33. R4e2 in a third post. Lasker defeated Schlechter in the final round of the London 1899 tournament (costing Schlechter a share of 2nd place) and now faced him--again with the Black pieces-- here in the opening round of Paris 1900. Having been burned by Lasker in a Giuoco Piano in London as tamar points out, Schlechter sought refuge in a placid variation of a Four Knights Opening (4. Bc4 instead of the usual 4. Bb5). Lasker, in turn, decided to forego 4...Nxe4 and instead just played 4...Bc5. Schlechter could perhaps have sought an edge with 7. BxN (followed by 7...QxB 8. Nd5), but played for equality with 7. Be3. Lasker could have swapped Bishops with 7...BxB, but chose 7...Bb4 and then 8...BxN, messing up Schlechter's Queen side pawn formation. With fine play by both antagonists, the game remained approximately equal until Schlechter's 22nd move. Unlike paladin at large, I see nothing wrong with Schlechter's 16. c4, but I agree that 21. Qh5 was not best (21. Bb4 seems better). Schlecther's 22. f3 was the first move in the game that could be deemed a "mistake." Instead of this weakening advance, Schechter could have played 22. Nf3. ughaibu's comment concerning Lasker's 24... f4 is excellent. Yes indeed, the move adumbrates Lasker's famous victory over Capablance at St. Petersburg in 1914. I would note, however, that Lasker could have better exploited Schlechter's 22. g3 by playing 23...f4 immediately rather than his merely equalizing 23...Qg6. The contemporary commentators debated whether Lasker's king-side attack was a real threat. Marco thought that Lasker was pushing Schechter back move by move, while Teichmann thought the attack was going nowhere and that Schlechter was getting the better game. In my view, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Through move 26, prospects seem about even to me. Rosenthat in the Tournament Book calls Schlechter's 28. Ne4 "weak." But Rosenthal's 28. Nf1 is no improvement. Lasker's 27...Rff5 was slightly inferior to 27...Re1, and Schlechter could perhaps tried 28. d4. But so far as I can see there was nothing much wrong with Schlechter's game after 28. Ne4. Lasker began to get in trouble with 30...Qd6. Fritz recommends 30...b6, a move I fail to understand at all. Best seems Marco's suggested 30...c5, closing the door on d4 by White. Once Schlechter played 31. d4, Lasker should have recognized that he was in trouble. The Tournament Book says that Schlechter could have obtained "good prospects" with 32. Ba1. But Schlechter's 32. Qd3 protecting the c3 Bishop seems best. After 32. Qd3, Lasker had to play 32...b5 to stave off catastrophe. As seems obvious, neither he nor Schlechter saw 33. Rxf4, a move that could have brought Schlechter victory and that I will address in my next post on this game. |
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Jun-04-17
 | | KEG: 33. Rxf4 would almost certainly have won the game for Schlechter. I have examined three possible responses for Lasker, none of which appear to be sufficient. In ascending order of usefulness: A) Had Lasker responded 33...exf4 Schlechter would have had a clear win with 34. QxR. I have nothing to add to Boomie's excellent analysis of this variation. B) Had Lasker responded 33...Rd6, 34. Rg4 wins for White. The only thing I have to add to Boomie's analysis here is that if Lasker had responded 34...Nf6 to 34. Rg4, 35. Rg6 would have been even more devastating than Boomie's 35. Rg3 (which, to be fair, also wins for White). C) Lasker's best chance had Schlechter played 33. Rxf4 would have been to try 34...Rxg2. Had Schlechter then played 35. KxR, Lasker would have been back in the game with 35...exR. But I see no salvation for Lasker against Boomie's far superior 35. Rg4 (tamar also found this fine move). Boomie's line after 35. Rg4 (35...RxR 35. fxR Rg5 36. Bd2 QxQ 37. cxQ Rg6 38. dxe5) seems best to me. Boomie queries whether Black would have drawing chances in this variation after the exchange of Rooks and Queens. Given that White would be up a pawn and would soon have a protected passed e-pawn in the center, there seems little doubt that White should prevail, especially since White's Bishop is better than Black's Knight in this endgame. In sum, Schlechter almost certainly would have had a won game had he played 33. Rxf4 |
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Jun-05-17 | | morfishine: Wow, Schlechter sure goofed this one up
But, players tended to that when playing Lasker
***** |
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Jun-05-17
 | | KEG: <morfishine> I wouldn't be too hard on Schlechter for missing 33. Rxf4 at the board. After all, Lasker missed it also (otherwise he wouldn't have played 32...Rg6) and Rosenthal, Teichmann, and Marco--although they had all the time in the world to analyze the game--missed the move in their annotations. But as you rightly note, players did seem to freeze up against Lasker. A form of early "Fischer-fear." As I will show in my next post, Schlechter fell to pieces after missing a win on move 33. |
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