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Gyozo Forintos vs Lajos Portisch
"Buda Pests" (game of the day Feb-01-2025)
Voros Lobogo (1955), Budapest HUN, rd 4, Nov-??
Nimzo-Indian Defense: Huebner Variation. Main Line (E41)  ·  0-1

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Feb-01-25  goodevans: I guess Black knew that trading off to a Q vs R+N endgame was winning but he passed up several opportunities for a quicker win.

Perhaps simplest was 52...Rxf1 53.Nxf1 (53...Qxf1? Nxc4+ 54.Kc1 d2+ 55.Kd1 Nxe3+ wins the Q) 53...Qf2+ 54.Kc1 and now 54...g4! forces the R to abandon the 3rd rank and gives Black a winning attack.

Feb-01-25
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  Teyss: Beautiful game despite some misses by Black as noted by <goodevans>. I tried to understand what was happening here but didn't succeed so ran SF. Another winning move was 54...h4 and the Knight cannot move because of 55...Rxf1 56.Qxf1 Qxf1+ 57.Kxf1 d1=Q+. White will at least lose it and Black has other threats like ...Bh5+ and Qe8 aiming at e3.

It also shows White could have put up a stronger resistance in the R+N+P vs Q endgame. Beautiful nonetheless.

The pun: were Gyozo Forintos and Lajos Portisch such unpleasant persons?

Feb-01-25
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  FSR: <Teyss: . . . The pun: were Gyozo Forintos and Lajos Portisch such unpleasant persons?>

I have heard that Portisch (who is still with us) is a very nice man. No idea about Forintos.

Feb-01-25
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  moronovich: I once ,in 1977, met Potisch and he seemed to be a kind man.
Feb-01-25
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  perfidious: Never heard a negative word about either player; in point of fact, the only things I have ever come across corroborate <FSR>'s remark on Portisch.

One droll tale regarding Portisch: in the 1980s, he was at the drawing of lots in an event with, amongst others, Kasparov.

The numbers for the draw were underneath gold ingots and Kasparov went to pick up one and struggled with it; then Portisch took his turn and effortlessly lifted the gold bar from its place to everyone's astonishment, according to Nunn in his best games collection.

Feb-01-25  stone free or die: Well, if you might consider Portisch a pest if you were sitting across the board trying to win a game from him.

Just remember that <CG> grants a rather large measure of, er, "poetic license" when shoehorning a pun into the GotD.

Feb-01-25
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  perfidious: <zed: Well, if you might consider Portisch a pest if you were sitting across the board trying to win a game from him....>

Likewise with Forintos.

Feb-01-25
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  Check It Out: Having visited Budapest many times over the years, I can say the people are good looking, charming, and temperamental. They are proud of their late-harvest wine (tokaj) and stronger distillation (palinka). The food is great (goulash, chicken paprikash, sausage of all sorts) and they use paprika seasoning generously. There are many sights to see, beautiful architecture, museums, and the classical culture (opera, ballet, symphony) is very good. You can eat in the floating boats on the Danube for a nice experience. So much more as well...
Feb-01-25
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  perfidious: Goulash is tasty.
Feb-01-25  stone free or die: Palinka - isn't that the brown almost syrupy stuff that tastes a little like coca-cola?
Feb-01-25  stone free or die: Chess - Hungarian style!

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/6c87...

This pic belongs on <Doll> for sure!

Feb-03-25
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  Check It Out: Stod, no it's light colored, dry, and a bit harsh.
Feb-03-25  stone free or die: <CIO> I read your post a bit too late, the x-post already's there.

But, given your objections, perhaps you would have preferred either one of these two alternatives?

https://www.dreamstime.com/budapest...

https://chessdailynews.com/wp-conte...

Feb-03-25
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  Check It Out: Sfod, objections?
Feb-04-25  stone free or die: < no it's light colored, dry, and a bit harsh.>

How would you characterize this?

(FWIW- I have no objection to the, er, objection(?) if it is such an object)

Feb-04-25
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  Check It Out: I was answering your question:

<stone free or die: Palinka - isn't that the brown almost syrupy stuff that tastes a little like coca-cola?>

Feb-05-25  stone free or die: <CIO> oh goodness, I mistakenly thought you were offering a critique of the Hungarian pool scene I posted. My misunderstanding (I got a good chuckle at myself - hope you did too!).

Thanks for that description, in that case.

I did a little research on Hungarian national drinks - and found that I was thinking of <Unicum> -

<The texture of the drink is "thick, black, goopy" and so bitter that it is often described as an acquired taste. The drink's name originates from the words of Holy Roman Emperor Joseph II, who in 1790, when being given the drink, said (in German) "Das ist ein Unikum!" ("This is unique!").>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicum

Feb-05-25
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  Check It Out: <sfod> Lol, the pool scene cracked me up. Typical Hungarian baths. From what I've read, Attila the Hun placed town central in the Budapest locale because of the amazing hot spring baths, which I've enjoyed myself.

Unicum is like a better version of jagermeister. Okay in small quantities. Palinka is quite different.

Feb-05-25  stone free or die: Thanks <CIO>. I think I've had my life's quota of Unicum already, but I'll keep my eye out for Palinka.

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