Aug-15-23
 | | chancho: Great technical win.
Carlsen in his element. |
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Aug-15-23
 | | keypusher: Reminds me of a funny comment from an old Andy Soltis column -- in a rook ending, if material is even, it's a draw, but if you're a pawn down, you might win. |
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Aug-15-23
 | | Sally Simpson: Messiah was one Carlsen move away from getting this position tattooed on his chest.
click for larger viewBut Magnus refused to play 40.Kc4. |
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| Aug-15-23 | | csmath: Nice to see elite GMs making errors in rook endings. |
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Aug-15-23
 | | magnuspx: 16…Ke8! “simply phenomenal” -Hikaru Nakamura |
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| Aug-15-23 | | csmath: Another real strong game by Magnus, the way he neutralized opening is indeed impressive and Gukesh was just not up to the ending game, perhaps he is too young for ending mastery yet. |
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| Aug-16-23 | | Saniyat24: The Norwegian Magi, endgame G.O.A.T...! |
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| Aug-16-23 | | Atking: Gukesh 5.e4 is going to be an interesting gambit yet 43 moves latter black e pawn is victorious 48...e2 0-1 Impressive understanding of Chess! Gukesh is young I'm sure he will learn a lot from this game. |
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| Aug-16-23 | | EvanTheTerrible: I hope the juniors maintain their combative style, even if it doesn't initially work at the highest levels. |
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| Aug-16-23 | | metatron2: Great game by Magnus, including his surprising variation vs the London. However, Gukesh' endgame play here was quite disappointing. He went for that c3-b4-a3 pawn formation vs black's a6-b5 on the Q side, getting his K stuck on b3, yet he never made a breakthrough there. I guess it was obvious for a player of his strength, that if he leaves his K stuck on the Q side, then black will easily win on the other side, with his active K, active Rook, extra passed pawn and pressure on g2. Gukesh had to try and suck his g2 pawn by playing c3-c4, and create some counter play with a passed b-pawn. Even if he thought that it would lose too, he should have known that playing passive like that is 100% easy lose, and that he had to try to create some counter play, instead of waiting passively for the end like a patzer |
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Aug-16-23
 | | FSR: Not an opening line you see every day. |
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| Aug-16-23 | | Ulhumbrus: The computer evaluations suggest that 8 e5! gains a slight advantage whereas 8 a3?! leaves White struggling for equality for therest of the game. The computer evaluations suggest ( and the GM commentators may have indicated as well) that 34 Ra2?? is a losing mistake, losing the chance to advance the c pawn and gain a passed b pawn whereas 34 c4! gains a passed b pawn and should lead to a draw. After Carlsen's reply 34...Rg5 White is unable to advance the c pawn for the rest of the game whereas Carlsen's king and e pawn cannot be stopped. |
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Aug-16-23
| | keypusher: The big errors in the game seem to be:
34.Ra2 (34.c4)
34.....Rg5 (34....Kd6)
35.Ra7+ (35.Ra5 f4 36.Kc2 Rxg2+ 37.Kd3 Rg5 38.Ke4 Rf5 39.Ra7+ (now is the right time to play it) |
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| Aug-16-23 | | metatron2: <Ulhumbrus: The computer evaluations suggest ( and the GM commentators may have indicated as well) that 34 Ra2?? is a losing mistake, losing the chance to advance the c pawn and gain a passed b pawn whereas 34 c4! gains a passed b pawn and should lead to a draw> True. He needed to keep his Rook on f2 in order to block with Rf3 after 34. c4 Rg3+.
But even after that mistake Gukesh shouldn't have shuffled his Rook and King without purpose, allowing Magnus to run over him. He could have tried to return with the Rook to f2 and go for the c3-c4 break again (which is worse there of course, since he lost 2 tempi, but still), or he could have tried to bring his king to the center while giving up his g2 pawn, with chances to stop black pawns while combining his king and rook, and with options to pick black's b pawn along the way. Anything active was of course way way better than waiting passively, with his king watching the show from far away. One of the first lessons they teach in chess endgames, is that activity is the most important element in rook endgames. More than material in the vast majority of the cases. |
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| Aug-16-23 | | dehanne: Haters gonna hate. |
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| Aug-17-23 | | metatron2: <dehanne> That wasn't hate. Why should i hate Gukesh? I Hardly know anything about that kid, and in general, I am very impressed and supports the strong Indian youngsters, who are the future of chess. Point was, that I am having hard time remembering another example of a top chess player that was playing a rook endgame so passively. As far as I recall, the strong players always try to Activate their Rook and King in rook endgames. Win or Lose, they won't sit around passively, waiting for their opponent to finish them. |
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| Dec-14-24 | | fabelhaft: <He needed to keep his Rook on f2> Unlike a future opponent |
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