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| Jul-30-15 | | morfishine: Not much to add other than nice postings <everybody> Black has zero chances to win while White is sitting on a mate-in-one There's no time to fool around, Black must force the stale-mate: <41...Rh1+> and Black draws: 42.Kxh1 Re1+ 43.Kh2 Rh1+ 44.Kxh1 stalemate ***** |
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Jul-30-15
 | | Bubo bubo: I only found 41...Re1+ 42.Kf2 Rh1, which threatens mate and (after 43.g3) a skewer of the knight, so White has nothing better than 43.Rh7+ Rxh7 44.Kxe1. The game line is of course more convincing and handsome. |
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| Jul-30-15 | | wooden nickel: Looks like the played line is the easiest and surest way to draw.
There are many good and interesting posts of other drawing lines
with swindle chances on both sides, I thank you all.
I think this line is the fanciest alternative:
41... Re1+ 42.Kf2 Rhh1 43.Ra8+ Kg7 44.Nh5+ Kg6 45.g4 Rhf1+ 46.Kg3 Re3+ 47.Kh2 Kg5 48.Rg8+ Kh4
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| Jul-30-15 | | Abdel Irada: Of Englisch Birds and Wild Rooks?
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| Jul-30-15 | | Imran Iskandar: I'm now four out of four for the week! |
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| Jul-30-15 | | Abdel Irada: Well done, Imran. Keep plugging. :-)
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| Jul-30-15 | | saturn2: I would have played 41...Re1+, 42Kf2 Rhh1 threatening Rhf1 mate and also pinning the king and knight on the f file.
The only way for white is to put in Ra8+ and N8+ playing then g3-g4.
The outcome of the game paying uncertain at this moment. Stalemate I simply did not consider. |
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| Jul-30-15 | | LucB: <FSR> Thanks for the info and the links; much appreciated! |
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| Jul-30-15 | | LucB: <offramp> <Two players but only one is English.> :D .... Indeed! |
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Jul-30-15
 | | Sally Simpson: Neither were English.
Henry Bird was Scottish..... He was born in Skye.
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| Jul-30-15 | | patzer2: The stalemate sacrifice with 41...Rh1+!, which solves today's Thursday puzzle, is fascinating. But for me it's an even more interesting puzzle when you back it up a couple of moves to White's 39th move (39. ?) (diagram below): 
click for larger viewHere Bird played 39. Rxe8!? when 39...Rxe8?? 40. Nxf6!  loses quickly. Instead after the saving in-between move 39...Rh5+!, the line 40. Kg1 Rxe8 41. Nxf6 leading up to our Thursday puzzle position (41...?) is forced. P.S.: Fritz somewhat spoils the beautiful finish by avoiding 39. Rxe8!? and recommending the technically best 39. Ne3  (+0.87 @ 24 depth, Deep Fritz 14). Earlier in the game, White could have won with 32. Qh5! Qe3 33. Qxg4+ Qg5 34. Qe6+ Kh8 35. Qe7 (+2.45 @ 25 depth, Deep Fritz 14). |
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Jul-30-15
 | | Penguincw: It's been a while since the last endgame puzzle (also since the last puzzle where one side aims to draw). A couple of lines came to my head.
The first one was 41...Rh1+ 42.Kh1 Re1+ 43.Kf2, and I'm not sure what's next (I wasn't paying attention to stalemate). Also there's 41...Rg5 42.Nxe8 Rxg3, and if that g-pawn is somehow won, it's going to be a draw. Of course, 41...Rg5 42.Rh7# 1-0. The ideal position is 41...Re1+ 42.Kf2 Rhe5, all is saved (except for the king). On a side note, I've seen I've been here before, as I was about to add this game to my collection of stalemates, but I already have (probably many years ago). |
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| Jul-30-15 | | saturn2: @FSR After 41...Re1+ 42.Kf2 Rhh1, White should be able to hold the draw without much trouble after 43.Ra8+ Kg7 44.Ne8+. I'd rather be Black, but I don't think he has many winning chances. It was also my opinion. But white can go a different way 43: Rh7+ Rxh7 (forced) 44KxRe1 . Its an endgame R vs N+2P and should be good for white. (The pawn g3 can be protected by the knight.) |
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Jul-30-15
 | | FSR: <saturn2> As <Cheapo by the Dozen> pointed out, after 41...Re1+ 42.Kf2 Rhh1 43.Rh7+?? Rxh7 44.Nxh7, 44...Re5! wins. So White <must> play 43.Ra8+! Kg7 and now either 44.Ne8+ or 44.Nh5+. |
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| Jul-30-15 | | LucB: <Sally Simpson: Neither were English.
Henry Bird was Scottish..... He was born in Skye.
:)>
That one went way above my head.
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| Jul-30-15 | | Imran Iskandar: Thanks, <Abdel Irada>! |
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| Jul-30-15 | | CHESSTTCAMPS: <FSR: <saturn2> As <Cheapo by the Dozen> pointed out, after 41...Re1+ 42.Kf2 Rhh1 43.Rh7+?? Rxh7 44.Nxh7, 44...Re5! wins. So White <must> play 43.Ra8+! Kg7 and now either 44.Ne8+ or 44.Nh5+.> Hold it, after 43.Rh7+ Rxh7, don't we have simply 44.Kxe1? |
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| Jul-30-15 | | saturn2: @FSR cant white play 44 KxRe1 instead of 44NxRh7? |
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| Jul-30-15 | | kevin86: White is about to win a rook...but succumbs to a threepenny stalemate trap. easy as a Monday puzzle! The rooks wave bye-bye as the king is stalemated! |
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| Jul-30-15 | | shivasuri4: <saturn2>, yes, that holds for White comfortably. |
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| Jul-30-15 | | thegoodanarchist: <offramp: Two players but only one is English.> The other is a bird? |
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| Jul-30-15 | | Nosnibor: According to the tournament book every one in the room spectating this game thought the finish amusing except Mr.Bird, |
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Jul-30-15
 | | perfidious: <Bad Englisch> |
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| Jul-30-15 | | Tiggler: Black draws in three moves: Rh1+; Kxh1 Re1+; Kh2 Rh1+; Kxh1 stalemate. |
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Jul-30-15
| | FSR: <CHESSTTCAMPS> <saturn2> Woops! You are right - in that line, 44.Kxe1! holds easily. In light of that, 41...Re1+ 42.Kf2 Rhh1 doesn't give Black real winning chances. |
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