| May-04-22 | | virginmind: Slava Ukraini!
Bravo Norway! |
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May-06-22
 | | Atterdag: Bravo, indeed.
Great that the champ backs this excellent initiative and, of course, also great to see the magnificent Ivanchuk again. A slap in the face of Putin and his lap dog Karjakin. |
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May-08-22
 | | dernier loup de T: Chess switched from creative beauty to testimony of political and nationalist hatred: nothing really new under the sun, but things seem to get worse and worse beyond all limits of decency, including the comments of some kibitzers: "GENS UNA SUMUS", lol! |
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May-09-22
| | Atterdag: Violently attacking a peaceful neighbor country, murdering its inhabitants, destroying their homes and forcing them to become fugitives is indeed, <beyond all limits of decency>, but oh, that was not what you meant? Things <get worse and worse> indeed, but what is getting worse and why? The Russians could start leaving Ukraine today, beginning to make things better and better. This is, unfortunately, not an academic battle of words, opinions and notions, this is a real brutal war with completely innocent lives at stake. |
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May-09-22
 | | moronovich: Well spoken, <Mr. Atterdag> ! |
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May-09-22
 | | Dionysius1: What he says! |
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| May-09-22 | | Diademas: What they all say. Except <dldT>. |
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May-09-22
| | dernier loup de T: Maybe because "dldT" is the only one who THOUGHT that this place is dedicated to CHESS, not to political hateful controversies, and because he thought too his kibitz is clear enough for no marsupial brains. Mea maxima culpa! |
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May-10-22
| | Atterdag: <dernier loup de T> Sir, you mistake the cause with the reaction. Has it escaped your attention that this match between Norway and Ukraine has been arranged for political reasons? To show <solidarity> with the Ukrainian chessplayers and the ill fate of Ukraine in general? You keep talking about the war as if it is a "political contriversy". If you and I stand opposite to each other and discuss politics and walk away thereafter without agreement, we have a political controversy. What is it if I grab a knife amidst your argumentation and kill you or threaten to kill you if you don't agree with me? Still just a political controversy? Sadly, it has become a fact that chess and other harmless, great things in life has become polluted with the ongoing war, but please, direct your anger towards the source of this pollution, not those who react upon it. |
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May-10-22
| | dernier loup de T: NO, <atterdag>, the fact that this CHESS match has been arranged for POLITICAL reasons dit NOT escape my attention, and this is very precisely, if not uniquely, the reason of what you call my "anger", and what I would call rather my contempt and disgust.
As for the SOURCE of the pollution, this is for me off topic; My center of interest here
is dictated ONLY by CHESS GAMES and by the beauty of chess, including his cultural history , not by your knife (and bomb) considerations, even I deeply regret the nazis agressions operated by Azov batallion against Donbass innocent civil populations as consequences of in Kiev rebellion organized in 2014 by USA,
which are in my opinion the veritable source of the indeed sad war in Ukraine between Russia and Nato you mention.
Wether you like it or not.
Wether you have 100, 1000 or one million of followers and fans here, or not.
Even I'm not a master, but only a lowly but really lover of this game.Politics is a grave source of preoccupations and sadness, true, but exactly for this reason, it should not be introduced even in the peaceful confrontations on a chessboard. FIDE seemingly decided in another way, which is in MY opinion very inappropriate, or even evil way to deal both chess and reconciliation between nations.
So, I think it's you, and not me, who is mistaking the cause with the reaction, if Im not wrong. Just for an additional information:
1: admired the reaction of the ukrainian GM Anna Muzychuk for refusing to play in Saoudi Arabia in 2017;
2: I admire since a very long time Anatoly Karpov, as well in a human way and as a great champion, and specially I agreed warmly with his nice and noble answer to mister Georges Bertola, editor-in-chief of the french magazine "Europe Echecs", who dared to insult him in a letter, about this military conflict in Ukraine. Now, I must confess this arguing with you is beginning to weary me, and I would be very thankful to you if you take that into consideration. |
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May-10-22
| | Atterdag: <dernier loup de T> I feel sympathy for your last sentence, and I shall, of course, respect its substance. Clearly, we strongly disagree on many aspects of this complexity, but I dare express the fictional hope that we might end on a level of mutual understanding, should we sit opposite to each other with a bottle of Pomerol between us. I wish you a good day, sir. |
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| May-10-22 | | not not: Mongols politicize sport, politicize chess, politicize music, politicize food, politicize trade, politicize oil and gas, politicize anything just to invade and grab more and more land just to spread corruption, poverty, and their best sell alcoholizm, and dreams to own a microweave heheheh and facing backlash they go "dont politicize" lol dernier, you mongolian bitch, why half of underage girls in Bucha are pregnant now? who made all these kids pregnant, ye Mongol?
Azov? Bandera?
rapists, looters and murderers complaining about "nazizm" hehehe |
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May-12-22
| | dernier loup de T: <Atterdag> I'm sorry answering you a little late;
I appreciated much your last kibitz here; even our opinions are different about some topics, and even too I could no more drink much alcohol for some years, speaking to you would be however a real pleasure for me; but not in some unpleasant company, maybe you can guess easily which kind of people I'm alluding to.
Have a nice evening <Atterdag>! |
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May-12-22
| | Atterdag: <dernier loup de T>. And now it's my turn to thank you. You show great calibre, sir, and believe me, I completely understand your allusion! Instead of Pomerol we could easily enjoy a couple of espressos. There is not much in this world I treasure higher than honest erudite disagreement in friendly company. Take care, monsieur. |
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May-13-22
| | moronovich: <dernier loup de T> and <Atterdag> It is a pleasure to watch two gentleman communicate ! |
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| May-17-22 | | ragtag: Though I'm just a lowly grifter
I could launder money swifter
if I only had Ukraine. |
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