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| Feb-11-06 | | Fan of Leko: <euripides> To win that king must be cut off by two files, or pawn already on 5th. Else draw, but Vallejo had to find the right moves. |
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| Feb-11-06 | | Appaz: Whatever one can say about the time controls and the quality of the game, it leads to some very exciting time trouble battles (if the connection is good)! |
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| Feb-11-06 | | euripides: <fan> yes if Pono missed a win it must have been when the c pawn was still on. |
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| Feb-11-06 | | Xaurus: I calculated that Karjakin will lose 19,5 elo points from getting 3,5/9 points here. If they gain/lose elo points in this tournament, that is. |
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| Feb-11-06 | | littlepawn: Felgaer-Volokitin 0-1 |
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| Feb-11-06 | | iron maiden: With today's results, here are the final standings:
Vallejo, Ponomariov 6.5
Nakamura 6
Domínguez 5.5
Bruzón 5
Volokitin 4.5
Cheparinov 4
Karjakin 3.5
León 2
Felgaer 1.5 |
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| Feb-11-06 | | Mameluk: Nakamura must have relly big potential. He should use at least half of his time for a game, he will think out big things. Also when he stops playing according to Japanese mythology it will bring him higher. I liked his chess much more than Ponomariov´s, who is such a new Kamsky, I would say. While Nakamura has something of Anand and Morozevich. |
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| Feb-11-06 | | Chesstosterone: Are there tie-break rules here? Or in the usual tie-break rules, someone know who will get the trophy between Pono and Vallejo? Congrats to Vallejo, Pono, Nakamura and Dominguez (probably the latter will reach Bruzon again in Elo rating list). Poor Karjakin: A lot of effort and excellent performance in Corus during two weeks and in just one week and in a much lower rated tournament, all rating points he won there will be lost. Tiredness? Regardless the cause, poor guy... |
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| Feb-11-06 | | sapfy: <Xaurus> 19.5? According to my calculation he will 'only' lose 14 points from this event. He gained about 18.5 at Corus, so he is still up for the quarter. |
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| Feb-11-06 | | Chesstosterone: And for Bruzon, probably the best lesson for him is to avoid the English opening from his repertoire. He is one of the few players in the >2650's that uses 1.c4 in important tournaments, but his style is not suited for that. In consequence, his last classical games with 1.c4 have ended: +0 =1 -3, including the one against Cheparinov this tournament. When he started to play 1.d4, he recover his strength and he won his last three consecutive games!! Cuba has a bright future with these two guys (in my opinion Leinier is better prepared in openings), of course, the question is if some known trainer will be willing to train an improve their chess level, it is not easy for them to find support for getting good trainers (so, in several tournaments, Bruzon uses Dominguez as a second and viceversa, they don't have more options). |
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| Feb-11-06 | | Xaurus: <sapfy>Maybe I input the wrong numbers?
I was using this calculator:
http://www.fide.com/ratings/calcula...
Rtg: 2660
Rc: 2625
W: 3,5
N: 9
K val: 10 |
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| Feb-11-06 | | Chesstosterone: The correction to you formula:
Rtg: 2660
Rc: 2625 (although my calculations gives 2629)
W 3.5
N:9
K val: 10
With these values, change is -14.5
The main mistake is that you put 3,5 instead of 3.5. The correct is with the point. You can appreciate that by observing that if you put 3 or 3,5 the result is the same, so the calculator does not "understand" the "," as symbol for decimal digits. |
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| Feb-11-06 | | veigaman: does anyone know how many points vallejo´s elo improved after this tournament? |
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| Feb-11-06 | | Chesstosterone: <veigaman> Use the link: http://www.fide.com/ratings/calcula...
with information
Rtg: 2650
Rc: 2625
W 6.5
N:9
K val: 10
This will give you an approximate of 17 points.
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| Feb-11-06 | | veigaman: Happy for vallejo, he is a tremendous player who has been understimated by a lot of people. He is one of the best player playing with blacks and also he is very creative with great skill to combine. Definetely, Mexico is a talisman for him, he won the youth chess championship there soem years aho and now he won this tournament! |
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| Feb-11-06 | | Xaurus: <Chesstosterone> Thank you for the correction. |
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| Feb-11-06 | | Giraf: Pono - Valejo Pons :
Koya system 4.5 2.5
Berger 25.75 24.75
So Pono takes 1-st place. |
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| Feb-11-06 | | VishyFan: Rating changes from Cuernavaca YM
_______ _________ _________ _______ _____
Ponomariov, Ruslan(2723) +07.6
Volokitin, Andrei(2665) -04.8
Karjakin, Sergey(2660) -13.8
Bruzon, Lazaro(2650) +02.3
Vallejo Pons, Fransisco(2650) +17.3
Nakamura, Hikaru(2644) +13.1
Dominguez, Lenier(2638) +09.1
Cheparinov, Ivan(2625) -04.3
Felgaer, Ruben(2607) -26.8
Leon Hoyos, Manuel(2428) +00.3
ohhhhh! what a leveller chess is, Karjakin gained 15.9 ELO from Corus and here he loses 13.8 of them........, biggest gainers are Pons and Naka.. and the biggest loser is Felgaer by finishing last....... |
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| Feb-11-06 | | sapfy: <VishyFan> Exactly what formula do you use to arrive at these numbers? |
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| Feb-11-06 | | iron maiden: <sapfly>, look here: http://www.fide.com/ratings/calcula... |
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| Feb-11-06 | | sapfy: <iron maiden> I'm well aware of that calculator. I don't think it's very accurate. From what I understand, the formula for calculating rating change is (actual score - expected score) * k. This calculation is to be done on a game-by-game basis (after a suggestion to FIDE by Anand) and then added together. Using this method I get 18.68 gain for Karjakin in Corus and a 14.04 loss in Cuernavaca. VishyFan's numbers are different, especially with regard to Corus, so I'm wondering who of us is wrong. |
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| Feb-12-06 | | BIDMONFA: Cuernavaca Young Masters (2006) TOURNAMENT STANDINGS
Photos Champions - Francisco Vallejo and Ruslan Ponomariov
http://www.bidmonfa.com/informacio_...
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| Feb-12-06 | | sapfy: I should also mention the formula used for finding your expected score against an opponent: 1/(1+10^((opponents rating - your rating)/400)) |
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| Feb-12-06 | | CowardlyKnight: I'm speechless. This tournament should forever be known as "the Ukrainian disaster". |
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| Feb-12-06 | | suenteus po 147: Very interesting tournament. The "veteran" youngsters Ponomariov and Vallejo-Pons performed well in line with their slightly greater experience. It was cool to see Nakamura out perform Karjakin again :) |
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