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FSR
Member since Aug-27-05 · Last seen Apr-28-25
I am Frederick Rhine. The United States Chess Federation awarded me the titles of National Master (at OTB chess) in 1983, and Senior Master of Correspondence Chess in 1997. In February 2024, less than a year after I began playing in the ICCF, it awarded me the title of Correspondence Chess Master. It looks like later this year I will qualify for the title of International Correspondence Chess Master.

I am currently the third highest-rated player on the USCF's list of the top correspondence chess players in the country. In January 2025, I was the second highest-rated player, rated just three points below perennial leader Michael Buss. https://www.uschess.org/component/o...

The August 2020 issue of Chess Life magazine had a profile of me (for the text, see Frederick Rhine (my August 1, 2020 comment in the forum)).

I played in the 1997 USCF Absolute Championship (open to the top 13 correspondence players who accept their invitations), scoring 6-6 (+2 =8 -2). The late Alex Dunne wrote in his book on the Absolute Championships, "This was Rhine's only Absolute and he held his own against the best. His two losses were against previous Absolute winners." http://bit.ly/1NB55YP That book contains my games F Rhine vs R Lifson, 1997 and F Rhine vs D Burris, 1997.

But the 1997 event was not my only Absolute. I have also played in the 2023-25 events. In the 2023 edition, I drew all 12 games. That was enough to tie for second! Unlike the 1997 event, this one was under ICCF auspices and allowed the use of engines. There was only one decisive game! https://www.iccf.com/event?id=101114 In the 2024 Absolute, I have ten draws and a win(!), with just one game left, which will very likely end in a draw. https://www.iccf.com/event?id=105325 This time +1 will probably only be enough to tie for third. I have also begun play in the 2025 Absolute, with six draws so far.

I have played first board for the Rogue Squadron in the Chicago Industrial Chess League. I have played online for the Shropshire & Friends team in the 4 Nations Chess League (4NCL), and the Oswestry team in the Shropshire League.

I attended Lane Technical High School in Chicago with the late Chessgames.com co-founder Alberto A Artidiello until he moved out of Chicago. Lane's chess team won the Illinois state championship my junior and senior years, becoming the first school ever to win consecutive championships. Albert also became a master, as did my teammates Kenneth Mohr and Christopher Kus. The late FIDE Masters Albert Charles Chow and Morris Giles were also Laneites.

In July 2013, I played in my second and third regular-rated tournaments of the millennium(!), the Greater Midwest Classic and the Chicago Class (under-2200 section). I tied for second, undefeated, in both, winning $700 and $550, respectively, and brought my rating back over 2200. http://www.uschess.org/assets/msa_j... http://www.uschess.org/assets/msa_j...

I have contributed to hundreds of chess-related articles on Wikipedia under the handle Krakatoa, notably "First-move advantage in chess," http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-... "George H. D. Gossip," http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George... and "Swindle (chess)," http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_..., all of which are almost entirely written by me. The first two of those have been Today's Featured Article, the highest honor a Wikipedia article can receive, one attained by about one out of every 1,400 articles. I have received various Wikipedia awards, including the Imperial Triple Crown Jewels and the Timeless Imperial Triple Crown (which only 12 Wikipedians have received). My user page is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:K.... Al Lawrence in the aforementioned Chess Life article referred to my "erudite chess articles on Wikipedia." Chess historian Edward Winter in his article "Wikipedia and Chess" commended my Wikipedia articles on Gossip and Hugh Edward Myers. (The latter article is at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_....) https://www.chesshistory.com/winter...

I am the editor and proofreader of the book "Tournament Battle Plan: Optimize Your Chess Results!" by Daniel Gormally. I was the proofreader of the book "Triple Exclam!!! The Life and Games of Emory Tate, Chess Warrior" by Daaim Shabazz.

I was a contributor to the now-defunct Chicago Chess Blog, http://chicagochess.blogspot.com. I discovered, and documented in my blog post https://chicagochess.blogspot.com/2..., what Taylor Kingston calls "the Mortimer Effect," which has lowered the Morphy Numbers of many modern players (maybe you!). https://chesscafe.com/the-skittles-... I have a Morphy Number of 4 by virtue of L Barden vs F Rhine, 2010 as well as two simul games I lost to Arthur Bisguier when I was in high school.

Four hundred and ninety-four of my games are in chessgames.com's database. My favorites are F Rhine vs D Sprenkle, 1981, K Thompson vs F Rhine, 1992, and F Rhine vs A Boerkoel, 1996, each of which has been Game of the Day. Rhine-Sprenkle was published with my annotations in Chess Informant (Volume 32) and cited in the Encyclopedia of Chess Openings (Vol. B (2nd ed.) at 183 n.19). In Volume 33 of Chess Informant, my 18th move (18.Nxd6!) in that game was voted the 8th-9th most important theoretical novelty in Volume 32. The game was also cited in MCO-13 and "The Aggressive Nimzowitsch Sicilian 2...Nf6" by Eric Schiller, and occupies an entire chapter in all three editions of "Beating the Sicilian" by John Nunn. It is game 218 in "1000 TN!! The Best Theoretical Novelties" (Chess Informant, 2012). Anish Giri, in his 2023 Chessable course "Lifetime Repertoires: Giri's 1. e4 - Part 3" recommends this line for White. https://www.chessable.com/lifetime-... Following my game against Sprenkle, he writes after 22.Be3, "The computer evaluates this as completely hopeless for Black and it is. Our king is in fact much safer, thanks to our much better pieces." https://www.chessable.com/learn/159... More than 40 years after I played the game, my line still kicks ass!


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Thompson-Rhine was published with my annotations in Chess Informant (Volume 57), and cited in the Encyclopedia of Chess Openings (Vol. B (3rd ed.) at 172 n.163). Jeremy Silman discusses the game and my analysis of it in his book "Winning with the Sicilian Defence" (2nd ed.).

Joel Johnson in his book "Attacking 101: Volume #005" says of my blitz game F Rhine vs NN, 2019, "White played a flawless Smith-Morra Gambit that IM Marc Esserman would have been proud of." Georges Koltanowski published F Rhine vs A Artidiello, 1974 in his syndicated newspaper column. Richard Palliser discusses the opening of F Rhine vs S Nagle, 1997 in his book "tango!"

I have played some theoretically significant correspondence games in the Damiano Variation of Petroff's Defense (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 Nxe4!?), demonstrating that Black's third move, commonly regarded as a blunder, is fully playable. https://www.chessgames.com/perl/che... D Brorens vs N Ntirlis, 2023 analyzes two of my games in an article on the variation in Volume 158 of Chess Informant. Cyrus Lakdawala and Carsten Hansen include five of my games in their book on the line, "None Shall Pass: The Unbeatable Damiano Petroff: A tricky and surprisingly solid defense."

Jacob Aagaard analyzes the endings of two of my Internet blitz games in his 896-page tome "A Matter of Endgame Technique" (alas, mine was lacking). Cyrus Lakdawala includes my study-like win in F Rhine vs A Zhao, 2019 in his book "Tactical Training in the Endgame." He also mentions me, albeit not by name, in his book "In the Zone: The Greatest Winning Streaks in Chess History" when he refers to "The Classical Sicilian, which as one of my atheist students told me, is the closest thing he has to a religion." Cyrus analyzes my game against Gadir Guseinov in his book "The Makogonov Variation: A ruthless King's Indian killer."

Commentator Mato Jelic somewhat extravagantly calls my game E Sollano vs F Rhine, 1977 "The Greatest Ever Blitz Game Played in Chicago." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl8... See also Suren's analysis at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWa... My 7...Bxc5!! in that game, played the year before Boris Avrukh was born, is a big improvement on the flaccid 7...Bg6, his recommendation in the book "Beating 1.d4 Sidelines" (2012).

Someone also made a video (moves only) of J Aagaard vs F Rhine, 2021, a 2-1 bullet game where I drew and should've beaten the grandmaster - if only I'd had time! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-O... Someone else (or perhaps two different people) did a video (moves only) of Tal vs F Rhine, 1988, my loss to the great Mikhail Tal in a simul. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfk... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3o... The latter refers to me as a "great grandmaster!" which isn't quite accurate . . .

User: JimmyVermeer discusses my games NN vs F Rhine, 2021, P Pantelidakis vs F Rhine, 1974, and P Napetschnig vs F Rhine, 1977 in his video "The 109 fastest checkmates in chess history, part 10 of 11." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GT... The sequel "The 109 fastest checkmates in chess history, part 11 of 11," contains a Fool's Mate I played, which I had mentioned in a comment on this site. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0Z... Napetschnig-Rhine is also mentioned in https://www.chess.com/terms/fools-m.... Rick Kennedy discusses my game F Rhine vs NN, 2018 on his Jerome Gambit blog. https://jeromegambit.blogspot.com/2... My game F Rhine vs NN, 2010 is mentioned in the "Checkmate Patterns Course" by Raf Mesotten and John Bartholomew on chessable.com.

I composed this study, which Pal Benko published in "Benko's Bafflers" in Chess Life, May 2006:

White to play and draw


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The solution is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stale... It is based on an earlier study of mine, also published in Benko's column. Both compositions also appear in Harold van der Heijden's endgame study database. https://www.chess.com/news/view/76-... The above study is also cited in "The Complete Chess Swindler" by David Smerdon and "Rewire Your Chess Brain: Endgame Studies and Mating Problems to Enhance Your Tactical Ability" by Cyrus Lakdawala.

I was once one of the world's best players at suicide chess (also known as "losing chess"), a chess variant where one wins by giving away all of one's pieces. http://perpetualcheck.com/antichess...

I have successfully submitted 231 puns for Game of the Day. Game Collection: Puns I submitted. User: johnlspouge has remarked, "As far as I can tell, <FSR> is churning out 'actual puns' almost as fast as I can [insert bodily function of choice]." K Tjolsen vs S Marder, 2010. The coveted 2013 Caissar for Best (Worst) Pun went to "Control-Ault-Delete," the pun I submitted for Fischer vs R Ault, 1959, the Game of the Day on December 19, 2012. I won the 2019 Caissar in the same category for my greatest pun ever (and IMO one of the greatest chessgames puns ever) "Late December Back in '63: What a Lady, What a Knight!," N Littlewood vs B Brinck-Claussen, 1963, the Game of the Day on December 30, 2019. Since Caissars are awarded in January, my wins may illustrate recency bias. My pun "A Fine Attack" for I A Horowitz vs Fine, 1934 holds the record for the longest known time elapsed between pun submission and use as GOTD: 12 years, 4 months, and 18 days.

Nine of my games have been Game of the Day: NN vs F Rhine, 1977 ("Strangers on a Train"), F Rhine vs F Lasch, 1986 ("Lasch Call"), K Thompson vs F Rhine, 1992 ("Like a Rhinestone Cowboy"), R Delaune vs F Rhine, 1997 ("Red Red Rhine"), F Rhine vs D Burris, 1997 ("Fred Rhine Felled"), F Felecan vs F Rhine, 2019 ("Felecan Brief"), F Rhine vs D Sprenkle, 1981 ("Sparkling Rhine"), F Rhine vs A Boerkoel, 1996 ("Das Rhinegold"), and F Rhine vs NN, 2018 ("'Twas the Night Before Christmas"). Six wins, a draw, and two losses.

I am responsible for World Junior Championship (1957), Vidmar Memorial (1969), Carlsen - Anand World Championship Match (2014), Game Collection: Drawing lines, and 32nd Correspondence World Championship (2020), among others. Legendary chess journalist Leonard Barden recently told me in an email, "I follow your many thoughtful contributions to chessgames.com with interest."

I am a member of the ChessBookie Hall of Fame, having finished fourth in the Summer 2015 Leg, seventh in the Winter 2016 Championship Leg, ninth in the Winter 2017 Championship Leg, ninth in the Spring 2017 Leg, and seventh in the Summer 2017 Leg.

I am very active on Chessable, where my handle is "Krakatoa." https://www.chessable.com/profile/K... I am a "Legend" and have 134 badges, five shy of the world record held by maestro. https://www.chessable.com/badges/Kr...

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   FSR has kibitzed 29367 times to chessgames   [more...]
   Apr-27-25 C Aarefjord vs Carlsen, 2001
 
FSR: Carlsen, just 10 at the time, evidently didn't know about the fork trick 4...Nxe4!, when Black has already equalized and gets a large plus score in practice. Opening Explorer . Of course White is still OK with precise play. Stockfish 17.1 gives 5.Nxe4 d5 6.Bd3 dxe4 7.Bxe4 Bd6 8.d4 exd4 ...
 
   Apr-27-25 Tarrasch vs Alekhine, 1923
 
FSR: <Retireborn> Keres had 65.7% in 226 games. Repertoire Explorer: Paul Keres (black) . Karpov 58.5% in 182 games. Repertoire Explorer: Anatoly Karpov (black) . Of course as time goes by the general standard of play improves, so it's impossible to put up such gaudy numbers. Carlsen ...
 
   Apr-27-25 L Vadasz vs C Balogh, 2000
 
FSR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuE...
 
   Apr-27-25 E Zanan vs M Kerner, 2015
 
FSR: 4.d3? is a mistake (4.Nc3!). After 4...e4! 5.Ng5 (the only try), 5...Qf6! is best, when White must play 6.d4. Then 6...cxd4 7.Nxe4 Qe5 gives Black a large advantage.
 
   Apr-27-25 V Gunina vs R Valhondo Morales, 2019
 
FSR: 4...Be7 is a well-known mistake. 4...c6 is best, although even better would be to choose a different opening. If one wants to play the Philidor, the preferred move order these days is 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 e5, or 3...Nbd7 preparing 4...e5.
 
   Apr-27-25 G Harutjunyan vs S Tologontegin, 2019
 
FSR: <An Englishman> Have you looked at the hall of fame? https://wordsmith.org/anagram/hof.h... Some amazing stuff, e.g. eleven plus two = twelve plus one mother-in-law = woman Hitler
 
   Apr-27-25 Kenneth Rogoff (replies)
 
FSR: <keypusher> That is indeed weird, and hard to credit. Relatedly, all the polls show that more people disapprove than approve of Trump's handling of immigration. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/... Apparently a few Americans don't think we should be deporting immigrants to ...
 
   Apr-27-25 FSR chessforum
 
FSR: Submitted: [Event "USCF/WS/25A01 (USA)"] [Site "ICCF"] [Date "2025.03.03"] [Round "-"] [White "Rhine, Frederick"] [Black "Magat, Gordon"] [ECO "B90"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [WhiteElo "2339"] [BlackElo "2385"] [Source " https://www.iccf.com/game?id=1530031 "]
 
   Apr-27-25 Balashov vs J Sunye Neto, 1979 (replies)
 
FSR: ♫♪♫ It's been the ruin of many a poor boy ♫♪♫
 
   Apr-26-25 Lputian vs G Harutjunyan, 2001
 
FSR: <capablancakarpov: Black could have claimed the 50 move rule since move 136th.> <Ke2: Or he could have claimed instead of resigning!> All true! The last pawn move was 86.h6.
 
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Feb-01-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: I just submitted this game to CG.com:

[Event "London League Division 1 Match"]
[Site "London, England"]
[Date "1978.??.??"]
[EventDate "1978.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[White "Kevin J. Wicker"]
[Black "Roger Webb"]
[ECO "A57"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 b5 4.g4 Nxg4 5.cxb5 e5 6.dxe6 fxe6 7.Bg2 d5 8.Qa4 Qh4 9.Nh3 Ne3 10.Bxe3 Qxa4 11.Nc3 Qb4 12.O-O Nd7 13.Nf4 Nf6 14.Nd3 Qh4 15.Bf4 Be7 16.Bg3 Qg5 17.e4 dxe4 18.Nxe4 Nxe4 19.Bxe4 Rb8 20.h4 Qg4 21.Bc6+ Kf8 22.Ne5 Qf5 23.Rfe1 Rb6 24.Rad1 Qc2 25.Rd3 Bf6 26.Red1 g6 27.Ng4 Kf7 28.R1d2 Qb1+ 29.Kg2 Rf8 30.Nxf6 Kxf6 31.Rf3+ 1/2-1/2

Feb-01-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: And this:

[Event "Charlton Open"]
[Site "London, England"]
[Date "1975.??.??"]
[EventDate "1975.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "1-0"]
[White "Kevin J. Wicker"]
[Black "Kneebone"]
[ECO "A57"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 b5 4. g4 d6 5.g5 Ne4 6.Bg2 Qa5+ 7.Kf1 f5 8.f3 Nxg5 9.Bxg5 bxc4 10.Nc3 1-0

Feb-01-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  Phony Benoni: Very kind of you not to use Robin F Kneebone 's full name--if indeed that was him.
Feb-02-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: <Phony Benoni> I read somewhere that are three chess-playing Kneebones in England. I don't know whether Robin or one of the others is the guilty party. I should dig out my copy of <Not the British Chess Magazine> and see if it resolves this conundrum.
Feb-02-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  Phony Benoni: <FSR> I well remember <Not the British Chess Magazine>. Can you be sure the game is real if it was published there?
Feb-02-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: <Phony Benoni> Much of that publication was tongue in cheek, but I see no reason to think that the games in it were fabricated.
Feb-02-13  morfishine: Hello <FSR> I got a kick out of this rap-analysis: http://chicagochess.blogspot.com/20...
Feb-02-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: <morfishine> I loved that one, too.
Feb-03-13  morfishine: <FSR> Here's a funny non-chess related video I thought you'd get a kick out of. Big-headed caricatures always seem to make me laugh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ0N...
Feb-03-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: <morfishine> Thanks. Jib Jab has done a lot of funny stuff over the years. Have you looked at the "Key of Awesome" stuff? Quite funny. For example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhYT.... I like TheSecondCityNetwork too, such as this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YugT....
Feb-05-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: I just submitted this game to CG.com:

[Event "Rubinstein mem 04th"]
[Site "Polanica Zdroj"]
[Date "1966.??.??"]
[EventDate "1966.??.??"]
[Round "14"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[White "Filipowicz, Andrzej"]
[Black "Smederevac, Petar"]
[ECO "C00"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]

1. e4 e6 2. d3 Ne7 3. g3 c5 4. Bg2 Nbc6 5. Be3 b6 6. Ne2 d5 7. O-O d4 8. Bc1 g6 9. Nd2 Bg7 10. f4 f5 11. a3 O-O 12. e5 a5 13. a4 Ba6 14. b3 Rb8 15. Nc4 Qc7 16. Kh1 Nd5 17. Bd2 Rfd8 18. Ng1 Bf8 19. Nf3 Be7 20. h4 h5 21. Qe2 Ncb4 22. Rfc1 Bb7 23. Kh2 Bc6 24. Na3 Ra8 25. Qe1 Rdb8 26. Qg1 Qb7 27. Qf1 Kg7 28. Qh1 Qd7 29. Ne1 Ra7 30. Nf3 Rba8 31. Ne1 Bd8 32. Nf3 Rb8 33. Ne1 Bc7 34. Nf3 Rh8 35. Ng5 Bd8 36. Nf3 Be7 37. Qg1 Bb7 38. Nb5 Raa8 39. Na3 Ba6 40. Qf1 Rab8 41. Nc4 Bd8 42. Qd1 Ne7 43. Nd6 Bc7 44. Qe2 Ng8 45. Ng5 Nh6 46. Bf3 Bd8 47. Nh3 Ng4+ 48. Kg1 Be7 49. Nc4 Nd5 50. Nf2 Bb7 51. Nh3 Bc6 52. Qg2 Rhc8 53. Re1 Rc7 54. Re2 Ra7 55. Ree1 Ra6 56. Re2 Rba8 57. Ree1 R8a7 58. Na3 Ra8 59. Nc4 Nh6 60. Na3 Nf7 61. Nf2 Rd8 62. Nc4 Rb8 63. Nh3 Bd8 64. Na3 Ra7 65. Qh1 Bc7 66. Qg2 Rd8 67. Qh1 Nh6 68. Ng5 Qe8 69. Kh2 Rd7 1/2-1/2

Comments: This is the longest known game without a capture. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o... Sources for game score: http://www.chess.com/games/view?id=... and http://www.365chess.com/game.php?gi....

Feb-06-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: Here's a subtle positional game:

NN-Rhine, blitz, playchess.com, 2013/2/5

1.e3 e5 2.d3 d5 3.Nf3 Nc6 4.Be2 Bd6 5.O-O e4!? (better 5...Nf6 with advantage - Houdini 3) 6.Nd4 Nf6 7.Nxc6 bxc6 8.dxe4 Nxe4 9.f3?


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Qh4! 10.f4 g5?! (better 10...Bc5 11.Bd3 Qe7 with advantage - Houdini 3) 11.Bf3? (11.Qd4= Houdini 3) gxf4 12.exf4?? Bc5+ 13.Kh1 Ng3# 0-1

Feb-06-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: Another game submitted to CG.com:

[Event "U.S. Chess League"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2009.11.11"]
[EventDate "?"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "1-0"]
[White "Julio Becerra-Rivero"]
[Black "Hikaru Nakamura"]
[ECO "B29"]
[WhiteElo "2615"]
[BlackElo "2759"]

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e5 Nd5 4.Nc3 e6 5.Nxd5 exd5 6.d4 Nc6 7.dxc5 Bxc5 8.Qxd5 d6 9.Bc4 Qe7 10.Bg5 f6 11. O-O-O dxe5 12. Rhe1 1-0

Source: http://usclnews.blogspot.com/2011/1...

Feb-06-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: Another game submitted to CG.com:

[Event "U.S. Chess League Quarterfinals"]
[Site "Boston vs. New York"]
[Date "2011.11.09"]
[EventDate "2011.11.09"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "1-0"]
[White "Marc Esserman"]
[Black "John Fedorowicz"]
[ECO "B33"]
[WhiteElo "2554"]
[BlackElo "2523"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 e5 6. Ndb5 d6 7. Bg5 a6 8. Na3 b5 9. Nd5 Be7 10. Bxf6 Bxf6 11. c3 O-O 12. Nc2 Bg5 13. a4 bxa4 14. Rxa4 a5 15. Bc4 Rb8 16. Ra2 Kh8 17. Nce3 g6 18. h4 Bxh4 19. g3 Bg5 20. f4 exf4 21. gxf4 Bh4+ 22. Kf1 f5 23. b4 fxe4 24. Rah2 g5 25. Ke2 Rb7 26. b5 Ne5 27. fxe5 dxe5 28. Qb1 Qd6 29. Qxe4 Rbf7 30. Rxh4 gxh4 31. Rxh4 Rg7 32. Bd3 1-0

Source: http://usclnews.blogspot.com/2011/1...

Feb-08-13  David2009: Fred, thanks very much for today's masterly post on the K+B vs K+R+R draw (!!), from actual play!!, ref. Rublevsky vs K Asrian, 2004. I hope that Chessgames publish the full version of Adams vs D Lemos, 2011 with its extraordinary final position as detailed in your post referred to above.

Thanks again, David

Feb-09-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: Thanks, David! That's a very cool ending. I knew it would be rare, but I'm surprised that it's <that> rare - seemingly unique. You'd also think that someone else would have discussed this aspect of the game before, but my Google search didn't find anything.
Feb-10-13  morfishine: <FSR> I don't know if you saw this, quite entertaining. Who's up for Pancakes? http://www.uschess.org/content/view...
Feb-10-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: <morfishine> Thanks. I love how Rainn Wilson is asking all these insane questions and Carlsen is sitting there nonplussed.
Feb-11-13  morfishine: Carlsen is so humble, I think this is why he's so likable: People want to see him win. Sure, plenty of great GM's are humble, but perhaps they don't really show it. Take Van Wely for example; he may be the humblest player in the World, but he sure doesn't exude it.

Did you see his interview after his win vs Sokolov (Tata Steel)? Van Wely was having a sub-par tournament, so he was eager to go over one of his wins:

I Sokolov vs Van Wely, 2013

He was explaining the strength of his 'improvement' in turning the tables on White. Twice during the analysis, the commentator, who was probably rated ~1200, suggested improvements for White, which Van Wely glossed over. When he suggested a third improvement, a knight move, which busted Black's attack, Van Wely abruptly replied "Ok, now you're bothering me"

If it had been Carlsen, Magnus probably would've laughed and said "You just saved White...Have you considered a career as a chess professional?"

Feb-11-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: <morfishine> Humble people don't usually get to be great chessplayers. One certainly wouldn't use the word to describe Kasparov or Fischer, to take two of many, many examples. Robert Huebner is another humble chessplayer, a very shy man. He has the smallest signature I've ever seen. At his peak, I believe he was ranked #3 in the world behind 2 of the Ks (Karpov and Korchnoi and/or Karpov and Kasparov). One wonders if he would have been world champion if he'd been a little more full of himself. Carlsen is shockingly normal. He somehow has the talent of Fischer with none of the crazy. I think he will be the greatest player ever.
Feb-11-13  Robed.Bishop: <morfishine> & <FSR>: Please pardon my interruption. I couldn't help overhear your conversation regarding Carlson; I had my ear to the keyhole.

In every interview I've seen of Magnus, be it post game, television, or you tube, he has always been so laid back and this adds to his humble appearance. One can't help but feel that while he was at home growing up, his parents would tell him to get his chores done before practicing his chess.

Feb-11-13  morfishine: <FSR> To continue this discussion, I think Carlsen's 'humble' nature' stems from being Norwegian, where its taught to put others before one's self. His fiery competitiveness, IMO, stems from his upbringing and participation in sports, which supports my view that being an athlete first, fuels great chess play. Not that non-athletes can't be great chess players; but there's an added advantage to being an athlete if for nothing else, the competitive side.
Feb-18-13  goldenbear: <FSR> Can you confirm that my 6th move from a game I played yesterday is a theoretical novelty? I find it hard to believe that the computer's top choice on the 6th move in a normal game of chess could be a new move. The line in question is 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Nd4 4.Bc4 Bc5 5.c3 Nxf3+ 6.Qxf3 Nf6! I think this should be called the <goldenbear> Variation of the Bird Lopez.
Feb-18-13  hms123: <FSR> Good morning. I checked one database that I have and found these two games for <goldenbear>:

Pokorna, Regina (2348) -- Van Ruitenburg, Joost
HZ Open (8) Vlissingen NED
2001.08.03 1-0 C61b

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Nd4 4.Bc4 Bc5 5.c3 Nxf3+ 6.Qxf3 Nf6 7.O-O d6 8.h3 g5 9.d4 g4 10.hxg4 Bxg4 11.Qg3 Rg8 12.dxc5 Nxe4 13.Qd3 Qf6 14.f4 Bf5 15.Qf3 Rg3 16.fxe5 Qg7 17.Bh6 Qxh6 18.Qxf5 Qe3+ 19.Rf2 Qe1+ 20.Bf1 Nxf2 21.Qxf2 Rg6 22.exd6 O-O-O 23.Qd2 Qxd2 24.Nxd2 cxd6 25.cxd6 Rdxd6 26.Nf3 h5 27.Re1 Rg4 28.Re8+ Kd7 29.Ra8 Kc7 30.Rxa7 h4 31.Kf2 Rf4 32.Ra5 Rd1 33.Rc5+ Kb8 34.Be2 Ra1 35.Rc4 Rf6 36.Rxh4 Rxa2 37.Rb4 Kc7 38.Bc4 Ra1 39.Bd5 b6 40.Rc4+ Kd7 41.Ke3 Rb1 42.b4 Rc1 43.g4 Rf1 44.g5 Rf5 45.Be4 1-0

Micalizzi, Giovanni -- Ferretti, Folco
Rome Inps (1) Rome Inps
1991 1/2-1/2 C61b

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Nd4 4.Bc4 Bc5 5.c3 Nxf3+ 6.Qxf3 Nf6 7.d3 d6 8.Be3 Bb6 9.O-O Be6 10.Nd2 Qd7 11.a4 O-O 12.a5 Bxe3 13.fxe3 c6 14.Qg3 Ne8 15.d4 Bxc4 16.Nxc4 1/2-1/2

Feb-18-13
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  FSR: <goldenbear> Sorry, it's been played thrice in CG.com's database. http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... Mega Database 2013 has those games and six more. See also http://www.365chess.com/search_resu... (2 games in CG.com's database and 2 more).
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