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Jul-22-05 | | Orbitkind: Sorry for the misunderstanding Appaz; I only read one post and took it literally. We do seem to have almost exactly the same number of posts ; ) |
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Jul-22-05
 | | Susan Polgar: "Breaking Through" (biography of the Polgar sisters) is out! I received my first copy today and I am very happy with it. Best wishes,
Susan Polgar
www.PolgarChess.com |
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Jul-22-05 | | Appaz: <Orbitkind> That's ok, I've had my share of misunderstandings (and I guess there are more to come). <Susan Polgar> <and I am very happy with it> Husssshhhhh! Don't say it out loud :) |
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Jul-22-05 | | Orbitkind: Susan Polgar is lovely. She's a very pretty lady ; ) |
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Jul-23-05 | | bumpmobile: Weighing in on the "Self-Aggrandizing " debate. It looks from the third person wording of Ms. Polgar's profile that she copied and pasted someone else's description of her into her profile (probably her own PR person or something). I have to admit, if someone wrote those nice things about me, I'd paste them into MY profile. |
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Jul-23-05
 | | tpstar: I did not write the original bio, however I helped edit it on 3/4/05 (right before she came to the site) to smooth it out. This revision is pretty different and was more likely prepared by her directly or else her publicist. In any event, I think it's fine. =) |
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Jul-23-05
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Jul-23-05 | | Montreal1666: Chessbase has an article on tommorow's TV program "The Chess MasterMinds show" http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp... |
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Jul-23-05 | | vonKrolock: <"There will be many more spectacular chess TV shows including a planned event with Presidents Mikhail Gorbachev, Jimmy Carter, Anatoly Karpov and Susan Polgar. The ultimate goal is to get chess on TV to a billion people, giving it the same popularity as other major sports. Perhaps it is a very lofty goal, but we have to shoot for the best."> quote from article in chessbase.com - Yes, imagine... |
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Jul-23-05 | | Montreal1666: Today is Judit Polgar's birthday.
Happy Birthday!!!! |
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Jul-23-05
 | | lostemperor: It is difficult to aggrandize Susan Polgar enough. She is simply a phenomenon! Her sister Judit, may not have played chess so well, if at all, if Susan did not start to play the game as a child. Nevertheless I have to point out a mistake in Susan's bio above. <Appaz: .. But are there any mistakes or exaggerations in there> It may not be intentional but it is significant for the records In Susan's biography it says <"In 1991, Susan became the first woman player to ever achieve the men's grandmaster title"> I did wonder if this isn't a mistake. Wasnt Nona Gaprindashvili the first woman to be awarded the "male" GM title. I first thought perhaps Gaprindashvili was rewarded the title by becoming women WC. But that is not the case. Gaprindashvili fully earned the GM-title by scoring GM results. Two GM-results were needed then, with a at least of 24 games. Otherwise three. I'm not sure if a 2500+ rating what is now influenced by inflation was needed then. Nona scored those results in Lone Pine 1977 and Dortmund 1978. So, unless I'm missing something, Nona Gaprindashvili was the first woman to achieve/ earn the male GM- title. This of course doesn't in anyway do anything less of Susan's extra-ordinary performances in chess! |
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Jul-23-05 | | buscher07: Hi Susan,
Since my family and I are driving out to Arizona for your Girl's Tournament, I was hoping that you could tell me the exact time that registration will start on the 6th, or if I need to be there for that. Also, I have heard that on the first day we will be playing the first two rounds, and was curious as to what time they start, if so. Thanks in advance for your help.Looking forward to this,
Blythe Buscher |
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Jul-23-05 | | duchamp64: HELP! The USA vs RUSSA TV 2-hr telecast for tomorrow July 24, was listed as Channel 20 for Washington, DC by Susan. But the stupid Washington Nationals game is airing at 1 PM on that channel (this would override anything) and TV listings don't mention the chess show. |
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Jul-23-05 | | Appaz: <lostemperor> A google search seems to prove you right. She got her GM-title in 1978: http://www.tim-thompson.com/gaprind... http://www.answers.com/topic/nona-g...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nona_G...
Now, what a formidable player for her time! In 1975 she also had a perfume named after her, beat that Ms. Polgar! Her bio gives 1980 as the year of her GM title, I'll post a message about that. |
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Jul-23-05 | | Knight13: I can't wait to see The USA vs Russia [Distant] match on TV Tomorrow! YAY! |
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Jul-23-05 | | ChessHistorian: Appaz, lostemperor, Gaprindashvili and Chiburdanidze were given the GM titles. They did not have the 3 GM norms and rating requirement when they got the title. Zsuzsa Polgar was the first to earn the GM title the same way as men. She earned the 3 norms and achieve 2500+ rating. Her sister Judit was the 2nd a year later. After Judit was Pia Cramling. Only about half of the women who have the GM titles earned it. The other half were awarded. CH |
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Jul-23-05 | | schnarre: <ChessHistorian> Thought as much! Thanks for the confirmation. |
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Jul-23-05 | | Appaz: <ChessHistorian> Sorry, a misunderstanding from my side. None of the links I gave states that she earned it by making three norms. After a long, hard search I found one link that states explicit that she had been been granted the title honorarily: http://encyclopedia.thefreedictiona... Zsuzsa Polgar herself explains in more details:
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cach... |
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Jul-24-05 | | robmtchl: The match on chessmaterminds.com is some wonderful chess. The producers want to show the world that chess can be great television and very exciting. |
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Jul-24-05 | | like a GM: From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_P... : In 1991, Polgar became the first woman to earn the men's Grandmaster title by achieving three GM norms. (Nona Gaprindashvili and Maia Chiburdanidze had earlier been granted the title honorarily by virtue of being Women's World Champions). |
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Jul-24-05
 | | lostemperor: <ChessHistorian: Gaprindashvili and Chiburdanidze were given the GM titles> Like I said I thought that too. But it strikes me as really odd, and I think a lot of visitors too, reading in the bio that: <In 1991, Susan became the first woman player to ever achieve the men's grandmaster title>. For as sure as whatever, Nona Gaprindashvili ACHIEVED that also also. She scored sufficient GM results in men's tournaments. So what Susan's bio must read is that: Susan Polgar is the first woman player ever to FULLY EARN the men's grandmaster title!!!! I also thought Gaprindashvili was granted the title by becoming women world champion. But that seems not to be the case reading a book from Frits Agterdenbos 1984 on Gaprindashvili. Quote: <"She is the only woman who achieved the GM title. Her biggest success must be winning Lone Pine 1977, where she shared first place with Balashov, Panno and Sahovic. That meant her first GM-norm. The second she achieved in Dortmund 1978">. Furthermore it stated the rules needed to earn the GM title (in 1984). Two GM- norms and a rating of 2450 were sufficient. Quote from the same book <"The most usual way to achieve a GM result is achieving TWO or more GM results in tournaments with more that 24 games plus a rating of at least 2450 (this is the only question whether Gaprindashvili had that, not according to this database). It should be noted that winning the women worldchampionship is equal to ONE GM result">. So according the book, not even counting Gaprindashvili being 4 times women worldchampion, she fully earned the GM title by scoring GM title results. The only reason, I can think of, Gaprindashvili might not have earned it is her rating being insufficient. And nowadays women can "get" the title by becoming European women champion alone! |
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Jul-24-05 | | Appaz: After giving a contribution to each side here, I'll just sit down and shut up. However, I find the topic very interesting, and hope you competent people can sort out the facts in this important milestone for chess history. |
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Jul-24-05 | | Giearth: <Appaz: ... hope you competent people can sort out the facts in this important milestone for chess history.>
Agreed! Perhaps someone could research this topic as a thesis... Anyway hi guys. |
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Jul-24-05 | | ChessHistorian: Gaprindashvili has only 2 GM norms and her rating was nver over 2500. Chiburdanidze has 1 GM norm and her rating is over 2500. You need 3 GM norms and rating over 2500 to earn the GM title. I am certain of this. I just spent 4 days with 3 of the top officials at FIDE. Zhukova of the Ukraine just became another woman who earned 3 GM norms. She was denied her title because her rating is only around 2480. Therefore, she cannot be a GM until she brings her rating gets to 2500. CH |
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Jul-24-05 | | JustAFish: I just got done watching the two hour "Chess Masterminds" program on our local station. Well done! A few thoughts:
- Overall the event had the feeling of a well made infomercial. I'm glad to see, however, that it didn't take the usual late night infomercial timeslot. - The games were exciting.
- The time control was just about right. If its changed next time, I'd err a bit on slightly longer games. - Bering Straight were a pleasant, appropriate filler between matches. - Paul Truong was a very good commentator- he spoke at just the right level to draw in the beginners and hold the interest of more experienced players. - The setting looked elegant and tasteful. I would have liked the Russian side to have been similarly decked out. It appeared as if the Russians were playing an a basement somewhere. Sometimes it was confusing determining who was playing whom. Perhaps having a similar layout in both locations where the opponents sat "across" from each other would help illustrate this visually. Also, one could have placed the players names on the screen. - The board in the corner of the screen was just a tiny bit too small. On my 25" TV, it was hard to read. - There were too many cuts between games. Sometimes there was not enough time to figure out which move had been made. - While I understand that the TV limits the coverage of the flow of a game to "broad strokes", I would have rather spent a bit more time to analyze a crucial position or two in each round than to see every move of every game. Qxf7 in Stripunsky's second game was a particularly interesting for the amateur, and would have been a good place to stop and analyze. - It was nice to see House of Staunton advertizing on TV. Thanks for this! Hopefully, it'll catch on and be repeated. |
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