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Scandinavian (B01)
1 e4 d5

Number of games in database: 17616
Years covered: 1475 to 2025
Overall record:
   White wins 43.4%
   Black wins 28.4%
   Draws 28.2%

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PRACTITIONERS
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Michele Godena  31 games
Sergei Movsesian  30 games
Joseph G Gallagher  26 games
Miguel Munoz Pantoja  109 games
Sergei Tiviakov  107 games
Jacek Tomczak  79 games
NOTABLE GAMES [what is this?]
White Wins Black Wins
Anand vs Lautier, 1997
E Canal vs Horvath, 1934
Steinitz vs A Mongredien, 1862
M Weiss vs Blackburne, 1889
NN vs P Krueger, 1920
Schlechter vs J Mieses, 1909
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Kibitzer's Corner
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Aug-04-09  MaxxLange: Well, something like the Stonewall Attack for White scores well in the C and under class, OK in the B class, worse in the A class, and even yet worse above 2000. People who want to play that way at the B class or above are best advised to move on to a superior Queen's Pawn Game system. There are several good choices.

That's the best example I can think of for a popular opening, surely PLAYABLE under 2000, but which will eventually score worse, in C to B class play, than the Colle or the Torre or the London System. The Stonewall Attack is basically only good for rolling inexperienced players, or for drawing. As a pool of players learns how to counter the one or two ways that White can win, it will stop working in that pool.

I'm not comparing the theoretical value of the Scandinavian to the weak openings that many people in the fishbowl play... the Scandinavian of course is a system that you could play against a GM, with chances to win, even

Aug-04-09  Vollmer: Thats very condescending Maxx . Many games of both 2...Qxd5 and 2...Nf6 have been played at the master level . Maybe you should shuffel off to the King's Gambit page .
Aug-04-09  MaxxLange: <Vollmer> my phrase "chances to win, even" is condenscending. I apologize.

I was trying to make a good point by comparing the Scan to a weaker "system" opening, but I have failed to communicate it

Aug-04-09  Vollmer: Maxx your last comment has made me stop and think of a better way to describe this . Some Openings do require more thought than rote preparation and waiting for your opponent to go out of book . I can think of a few more of these types of openings , 1.b3 for example . 1.e4-Nc6 also comes to mind . I like these openings because I play at longer times and get to think about what is going on . To me chess is a mental exercise and the workout often overshadows the result to me ; I suppose thats a rather quaint concept .
Aug-07-09  MaxxLange: <Vollmer> that is an interesting take on the kind of thing I was trying to think about

<chess is a mental exercise and the workout often overshadows the result> maybe it is quaint, but that's how I feel too, and, I think, a lot of players would agree.

In a Open State Championship or a tournament like that, you will see the same old players coming back year after year, never really dramatically improving their results, but still showing up to play and trying to win and trying to learn to play better chess. They have to love the game, or they would have dropped out years ago, you know?

Aug-07-09  WhiteRook48: 2. d4! try to get into a Blackmar-Diemer Gambit
Aug-10-09  SirChrislov: <WhiteRook>
Not many wht players dare gamble their e unit as early as move 2; thou I did play the the Staunton gambit in otb with success.

1.d4 f5 2.e4!? fxe4 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 with 5.f3, 6.Nxf3 and easy development.

Aug-10-09  SirChrislov: Here's a correspondence game I'm currently playing against a cousin of mine on chess.com, 3 days per move:

H-G-C vs SirChrislov
Scandinavian Defence, Icelandic Gambit
1.e4 d5
2.exd5 Nf6
3.c4 e6
4.dxe6 Bxe6
5.d3 Nc6
6.Nf3 Bb4+
7.Bd2 Qe7
8.Be2 0-0-0
9.Bxb4 Nxb4

White to move. Current position:


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Aug-10-09  parisattack: I am not so sure about 7. Bd2 (7. Nc3) or 9. Bb4 ... Black looks fine here to me.
Aug-10-09  Vollmer: SirC,
My initial reaction was that White made a bad effort in this opening and that after 10.O-O Black has equalized or is better . CM900 agrees ... please note that I always play 3...c6 and my comments are certainly not the last word here . Interesting position . (5.Nf3 is probably better)
Aug-11-09  MaxxLange: <AgentRgent> Right. I've deleted all my posts w/r/t Sir Chrislov's game in progress. My bad.
Aug-11-09  Vollmer: Agent,
That's why I tried to limit my opinions to moves 3 and 5 . (Last time I checked , the use of computers is allowed in CC games so I assumed that pointing out the obvious best move ...even a fish like me knows that O-O is called for here... was not out of bounds) . For the same reason I did not provide any analysis (do your own work please) . For what its worth , I have reached similar positions before with 3...c6 . Black always enjoys a rapid development in these Gambits and White is disposed to prove the extra pawn in the endgame (if he makes it to the endgame) with accurate play on both sides (IMHO) .
Aug-11-09  AgentRgent: <Vollmer: Agent,
That's why I tried to limit my opinions to moves 3 and 5.>
Right, no real harm there.

<(Last time I checked , the use of computers is allowed in CC games so I assumed that pointing out the obvious best move ...even a fish like me knows that O-O is called for here... was not out of bounds)> Well, not all CC chess allows computers. Since we have no indication if they're allowed here or not, I would err on the side of caution and assume they are not (since if they are, likely we'd all give inferior advice to what a comp would provide).

<MaxxLange: Right. I've deleted all my posts w/r/t Sir Chrislov's game in progress. My bad.> Good show.

Aug-11-09  SirChrislov: <Vollmer>
Yes, 3...c6 is also possible and quite playable. the simple reason I don't play it is because it can transpose to the Panov-Botvinnik attack of the Caro-Kann which is a trench of advanced darkness for me.

<Black always enjoys a rapid development in these Gambits> It is true and I strongly feel that blk already has sufficient compensation for the gambited unit(active piece play, has castled, and after ...♖he8 will have tremendous pressure down the central files) while wht still has quite a little bit of work to do before he can activate his rooks.

Aug-11-09  SirChrislov: Update on H-G-C - SirChrislov
last position:


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10.Qb3(?!) Rxd3
11.Nc3 Rhd8
12.0-0 R3d7
current position:


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Looks like I recovered the unit.
Wht to move.

Aug-11-09  SirChrislov: Here's a similar game from the database. blk's position is just beautiful. all his pieces are so "in harmony."

A Kovacevic vs A Simonovic, 2005

Aug-15-09  SirChrislov: H-G-C - SirChrislov

13.a3 Nc6
14.a4 h6
15.a5 a6
16.wht to move.


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Aug-15-09  WhiteRook48: white is in an inferior position I think
Sep-03-09  Robin01: 1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qa5 4. Bc4 Nf6 5. Nge2 c6 6. d4 b5


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An interesting move in 6...b5 here. Any thoughts from anyone on this move?

Sep-03-09  Robin01: Regarding the above-posted diagram, I like playing 5.Nge2 in this line, as I find my opponents are not so booked up on the theory.
Sep-07-09  whiteshark: <Robin01: <1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qa5 4. Bc4 Nf6 5. Nge2 c6 6. d4 b5>> I don't like the moves 5...c6/6...b5 for black. I think that quick piece development is more in the spirit of the Skandinavian. Thus 5...Nc6/6...Bg4 from my side.
Sep-22-09  SirChrislov: 5...c6 is an ok move. the Q needs to retreat in case attacked. but to play 5...c6 to intend 6...b5 is wrong. this is a premature attack. why attack so soon when you're poorly developed?

I don't play 2...Qxd5 but this is my humble advice. hope it is of help <Robin01>.

Sep-23-09  SirChrislov: Scandinavian 2... Qxd5:
http://www.logicalchess.com/resourc...

Scandinavian 2... Nf6:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandi...

For the Portuguese variation (aka Jadoul or Belgian gambit): 1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Nf6 3.d4 Bg4!? The book Center Counter Defense: The Portuguese Variation by Selby Anderson will be of help.

Scandinavian Def. games compiled by ravel5184:
Game Collection: Scandinavian Defense

Oct-05-09  The Chess Express: I'd like to post a line here that is not covered by the opening explorer. It goes 1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qa4 <4. f4!?>


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One possible line is Nf6 5. Nf3 Bf5 6. Bc4 e6 7. d3 Nbd7 8. Bd2 c6 9. h3 h5 10. Qe2 Qc7 11. 0-0-0 0-0-0 12. a3 Nb6 13. Ba2 Nbd5 14. g3 Bc5 15. Ne4 Bb6 16. Ne5


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Compare this position to a main line.

1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qa5 4. d4 Nf6 5. Nf3 c6 6. Bc4 Bf5 7. Bd2 e6 8. Nd5 Qd8 9. Nxf6+ gxf6 10. Bb3 Nd7 11. Qe2 Qc7 12. Nh4 Bg6 13. O-O-O O-O-O 14. g3 Bd6 15. Nxg6 hxg6


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or

1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qa5 4. d4 Nf6 5. Nf3 c6 6. Bc4 Bf5 7. Bd2 e6 8. Qe2 Bb4 9. O-O-O Nbd7 10. a3 Bxc3 11. Bxc3 Qc7 12. Ne5 Nxe5 13. dxe5 Nd5 14. Bd2 O-O-O


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To me it looks like white's chances are at least as good in the 4. f4 line. I welcome any feedback.

Oct-06-09  timhortons: Opening Explorer


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<position after you click the best 4 choice in the databse in white standpoint.>

larry kaufman in his book say about this position.

"that leaves the "c" and "d" pawns not able to cooperate.The game move, my favorite, has the idea to play d4 and c4,which is much more desirable from positional standpoint.

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