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Elisabeth Paehtz vs Dinara Wagner
Women's Grand Prix (2023), Munich GER, rd 1, Feb-02
Sicilian Defense: Modern Variations (B50)  ·  1-0

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Feb-02-23  whiteshark: Wagner has been caught off guard here.
The "Ride of the Valkyries" as ambient music.
Feb-02-23  ndg2: White's 4.e5 dxe5 5.♘e5 isn't very scary if black finds 5..♗d7!. After 5..Qc7?! 6.d4! however, life got already difficult for Wagner, who had never seen this line, apparently. She pondered about her next move for almost 60 minutes!

Problem is, the natural looking 6..cxd4 7.Qxd4 Nc6 is met with 8.Nxc6 with better pawn structure for white since 8..♕xc6 is impossible (9.♗b5), but 6..a6 is holding somewhat things together.

The game continuation 6..e6?! 7.♗f4 led to a fast king attack and an almost miniature win for white.

Feb-02-23
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  perfidious: It appears the strongest rejoinder to Paehtz' elegant 22nd move was to give up the queen, though White retains chances against f7 in that line, not to mention that she should win on material.
Feb-03-23
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  HeMateMe: bad opening for black. Piece overload, fine work by EP.
Feb-04-23
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  FSR: <ndg2> I don't remember who said it but someone made an observation many years ago about it being amazing, despite all the study people have made of the openings, how much hot water a master could get into in the first half-dozen moves. This game is certainly a case in point.

Your suggestion 5...Bd7, which virtually no one ever plays, is a good move. 5...a6! might be even better. One line is 6.d3 Qc7 7.Bf4? Nc6! 8.Qe2 Nd4! 9.Qd1 (9.Qd2 Nh5!) Be6, which is already very good for Black. The tempting 10.Nxf7? (or 10.Ng6?) is met by 10...Qb6! and White is busted.

Feb-04-23
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  Sally Simpson: Hi FSR,

<I don't remember who said it ...how much hot water a master could get into in the first half-dozen moves.>

It was probably Tartakower, putting him down for all quotes is a good guess. Maybe Tarrasch...

...it was not Morphy, he got into trouble bathing in cold water. (apparently).

Feb-04-23
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  perfidious: <Geoff> and <FSR>, my recollection is also that it was either Tarrasch or Tartakower.
Feb-04-23
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  FSR: <perfidious> <Sally Simpson> I was also thinking Tarrasch. Speaking of getting crushed in the opening: Bogoljubov vs Tarrasch, 1925.
Feb-05-23
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  Sally Simpson: In his '300 Games' Tarrasch came out of the opening in a poor position and blamed his "...excellent memory" for recalling what was the current theory.
Feb-05-23
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  perfidious: <Geoff>, that nugget from Tarrasch recalls the story Tal relates in his work on his best games, in which he was in the bath while preparing for his next game in an early Soviet championship, swotting up an article on opening theory. He reached the bottom of a page, which concluded that the line he proposed to play was good for Black. Next day, Tal trotted this variation out and was well and truly beaten. He then reviewed the piece in toto and discovered that the refutation was given at the very beginning of the first page which he had not read.
Feb-05-23  ndg2: Probably first page was wet and glued to the next page, so he overlooked it. Never prepare your games while in the bath!
Feb-05-23
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  perfidious: <ndg2>, the moral you draw is fair enough; but Tal had simply failed to read the next page.
Feb-05-23  ndg2: Chess queen on fire: 4/4
Feb-06-23
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  FSR: <Sally Simpson> Tarrasch was a master of excuses. He gave excuses for why he couldn't play a match with Lasker ("ice skating injury" was one). When they finally played a match and Lasker crushed him, he complained that the "sea air" had somehow messed him up. Lame excuse to begin with, but the venue was nowhere near the sea. When Lasker won a tournament ahead of Tarrasch, Tarrasch compiled a "luck table" to prove that Lasker's victory was undeserved.
Feb-07-23  pazzed paun: Tarrasch would make excuses after he lost
Bent Larsen would brag and boast before a contest then turn in one the worst performances of his life
Feb-07-23
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  FSR: <pazzed paun> If you want to be a great player, it helps to have a very high opinion of yourself.
Feb-07-23
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  fredthebear: You gotta EARN it -- the 10,000 hours rule?
Feb-07-23
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  perfidious: So it was with another incurable optimist, this great going on to play two matches for the title:

<'When I play White, I win because I am White; when I play Black, I win because I am Bogolyubov.'>

Feb-07-23
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  fredthebear: So much, much, much better to be an incurable optimist than deceitful and untrustworthy.

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