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| Jan-17-21 | | Messiah: Terrible! Very sad! |
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Jan-17-21
 | | saffuna: I was guilty of looking only at the computer evaluation during play, which had Firouzja up -2.00 after Carlsen gave up the two pawns. I didn't look at how difficult black's position was. One error...and checkmate. |
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| Jan-17-21 | | Everett: Too much pressure on Black.. after the sac of two pawns along with the exchange, White has all four pieces influencing the King’s realm. 35.. Bf7 is the losing move |
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| Jan-17-21 | | SChesshevsky: <Too much pressure on Black...> Yes, and Carlsen very comfortable with the attack in these semi-tarrasch exchange positions. Remember he beat Kramnik at least twice. And made fairly short work of Giri just a little while ago with the d5...exd5, e5 idea. |
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| Jan-17-21 | | tonsillolith: I think it's time for Firouzja to retire. |
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| Jan-17-21 | | Messiah: <tonsillolith: I think it's time for Firouzja to retire.> Yes, this is the point of no return. |
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| Jan-17-21 | | MordimerChess: Carlsen said in an interview that he was gambling here... after d5 there was no draw. Win or lose. Two pawns down, then sac the exchange... It was imporant to play 32...h5 first to control g4 square, before pushing a-pawn. 35...Kh8 was the only defending move but defense had to be extremely precise for couple of next moves. Impossible to calculate when low on time. Full video analysis:
https://youtu.be/l29_NfBy0VY
Enjoy! |
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| Jan-18-21 | | fabelhaft: Carlsen has been playing quite a few rather risky looking games the last years. Comparing with Capablanca, Kramnik and Tal during their unbeaten streaks, Carlsen has been taking much more risks and often sacrificed at least a pawn or two. Surprising that he managed to reach 125 unbeaten when he had a bunch of lost positions, Capa and Kramnik played much more conservative chess, and Tal had his long streak when he played many short draws, combined with not playing anyone from the top ten. Here it never got really out of hand. GMs like Short and Leko liked white’s play and engines giving Firouzja a big advantage apparently overestimated his position. When their lines are played out the advantage diminishes with time, and finding the draw was far from obvious in time trouble. |
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Jan-18-21
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: The d5, e5 sacrifice occurs often in the d4 + e4 vs. e6 pawn structure. It opens a diagonal for the Bd3 whilst driving the Nf6 away from a good square. The second pawn sacrifice does not occur very often. Very daring play by the WC. |
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| Jan-18-21 | | Ulhumbrus: On 40...Qg7 41. Qd6+ Kf7 42. Re7+ Kf8
43. Re6+ Kf7 44. Qe7 is mate.
This suggests that after 37 Qxh6 the exposure of Black's king is worth more than the rook sacrificed. However is the suggestion right? Or can Black improve on 37...Qc7? One alternative is 37...Qe8.
On 37...Qe8 38. Bh7+ Kh8 39. Bg6+ Kg8
40. Qh7+ Kf8 41. Qh8+ Bg8
42. Rxe8+ Rxe8 43. Qf6+ Bf7
44. Qxf7 is mate.
Another alternative is 37...Rc7.
Now on 37...Rc7 38. Qh7+ Kf8
39. Qh8+ Bg8 40. Qh6+ Rg7 Black's rook has joined the defence. On 37...Rc7 38. Bh7+ Kh8 39. Bg6+ Kg8
40. Qh7+ Kf8 41. Qh8+ Bg8 42. Qh6+
42...Rg7 once again Black's rook has joined in the defence. |
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Jan-18-21
 | | MissScarlett: <On 40...Qg7 41. Qd6+ Kf7 42. Re7+ Kf8
43. Re6+ Kf7 44. Qe7 is mate.>
How about <40...Qg7 41. Qd6+ Kf7 42. Qe7#>? |
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| Jan-18-21 | | diceman: Magnus pulls a Tata steal! |
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Jan-18-21
 | | 0ZeR0: Classic Magnus here. His play is very risky, sacrificing two pawns in a position where compensation let alone advantage isn't at all apparent. But as is often the case his opponent goes wrong in the complications. Due to games like this one gets the feeling of Carlsen's supreme confidence in his ability to win against anyone, even in unclear or equal positions. He enjoys going for moves which will cause his opponents the most difficulty. For this reason his play often reminds me of Lasker. |
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Jan-18-21
 | | Sally Simpson: ***
Hi OZeRO,
"But as is often the case his opponent goes wrong in the complications." Carlsen has the knack of setting OTB problems for players to solve in even the most barren of positions (yes like Lasker). Though here, anything but barren, what would go through my mind as Black. 
click for larger viewYou look at 35...Kf8 36.Nxh6 you have to take that and Qxh6+ must mate. You look at 35...Kh8 again there is 36.Nxh6
a quick OTB check, you have to take it because of Qg8 mate. Once you have that in your mind, any move with the time available that involves not taking on h6 will just pass you by. 36...gxh6 37.Qxh6+ that must mate, end of analysis. Out comes the most natural move on the board. 35...Bf7 thinking: 'if Nxh6+ take it, in this line White is not taking back on h6 with a Queen check. I can 'maybe' defend, everything else losses.' Horrible position to be in. Good Chess though.
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| Jan-18-21 | | Fanques Fair: Beautiful attacking game by the world champion ! |
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Jan-20-21
 | | Korora: Carlsen'll chase Firouzja's ♔ out and then all hail the mighty ♙! |
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Jan-24-21
 | | HeMateMe: a king with no pawn cover is a hunted animal. |
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| Feb-01-21 | | Starkraven: wot wot - test |
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Feb-02-21
| | MissScarlett: <Including rapid/exhibition games: Magnus Carlsen beat Alireza Firouzja 12 to 1, with 3 draws.> Magnus had a poor - but not this poor, I think - early record against Vishy. |
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| Feb-02-21 | | fisayo123: This database doesn't include the blitz match they played on chess24 which Firouzja won 8.5 to 7.5 , so its skewered more in Carlsen's favour. Besides, it will be unusual for the reigning World Champ in his absolute prime not to show some dominance over a 17 year old, regardless of who that 17 year old is. Carlsen himself used to get owned very badly by an ageing Anand and Kramnik when he was a similar age to Firouzja is now. |
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| Feb-02-21 | | fisayo123: Also, in a lot of those games, Carlsen has gotten some very strange luck. He has been outplayed multiple times by the kid, but Alireza didnt deliver the decisive blow. He'll learn |
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Feb-02-21
| | MissScarlett: < This database doesn't include the blitz match they played on chess24 which Firouzja won 8.5 to 7.5 , so its skewered more in Carlsen's favour. > But they were Banter Blitz. Magnus seemed to be doing a lot more chatting than Alireza. |
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| Feb-02-21 | | fisayo123: <Miss Scarlett> That's not very accurate. Up until 2008 , Anand had a score of 13 to 3 against Magnus Carlsen. And remember, Anand was already 36 at the time of their 1st meeting in 2005. Carlsen was 28 years old in his 1st meeting with Firouzja in 2018. Including the banter blitz games (i see no reason why they should not be included if chess960 is), the record is 19-8 in Carlsen's favour over Firouzja. Carlsen's record against Kramnik at a similar age was 7-1 in Kramnik's favour until Carlsen started fighting back. I don't see what's so unusual. |
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Feb-02-21
| | MissScarlett: I didn't claim Alireza's results against Magnus were unusual or surprising. That's why I drew a parallel with Magnus against Anand. But 13-3 isn't as bad as 12-1, so yes I was indeed accurate. |
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| Feb-02-21 | | fisayo123: It's 19-8. You can't just dismiss banter blitz games. That was a serious match and Carlsen was visibly rattled. |
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