| Nov-10-13 | | diagonalley: bewildering |
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| Nov-10-13 | | M.Hassan: "Insane"
White to play 17.?
Equal
White hopes to open the f file:
17.e4 g5
18.Qf2 gxh4
19.exf5 Bg5+
20.Kb1 hxg3
21.Qxg3
Game takes longer and I can not continue tonight. |
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Nov-10-13
 | | offramp: I'm glad I didn't try to solve this one. It might have taken all day. Could white have played e4 one move earlier, instead of g3? |
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| Nov-10-13 | | morfishine: To me, these Sunday puzzles have become a conundrum: I either forget to look for an "insane" move or I spend so much time looking for an "insane" move, I become insane... <17.Nxf5> 17...exf5 18.Rxd5 Qa5 19.Bc4 Be6 20.Rxc5 Rxc5 21.Bxe6+ Kf8 22.Qxf5+ Ke8 23.Qf7+ Kd8 24.Rd1+ Kc7 25.Qxe7+ ***** |
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| Nov-10-13 | | JG27Pyth: Okay here's a secondary rather easier but non-trivial puzzle from the game... White played 26.Nxc8! Why not 26.Qxg5+ Kh7 27.Rf6 which looks at first glance to leave white a quick mate on his next move -- what's the refutation? |
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Nov-10-13
 | | Penguincw: Hehe I got the first move. My intent was 17.e5 Nxe5 18.Nxe5 dxe5 19.Nxe6, exploiting the pin. |
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| Nov-10-13 | | fokers13: <jg27pyth>:Qxc2+! Kxc2 Ne4+ probably still loses but no mate in sight. |
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| Nov-10-13 | | Goato: <JG27Pyth><fokers13> I think after 26.Qxg5+ Kh7 27.Rf6? it will be white who gets mated starting with 27... Nd3+. The white Q no longer protects c2. I failed today, spent ages trying to make 17. Nxd5 followed by 18 e6 work. I thought about e4 but could not how to make any progress after dxe4. |
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Nov-10-13
| | offramp: I can see how white wins after 17.e4 dxe4; he sort of gangs up on e6.
But after 17.e4 fxe4, I can see the ♕-check on f7, and the h5 pawn falling - but what then? Is there a quick finish that I'm missing? |
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Nov-10-13
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| Nov-10-13 | | agb2002: White has a bishop and a knight for the bishop pair. If the pawn on f5 and the black knight disappeared then White would deliver mate with 17.Qf7+ Kh7 18.Bd3+ Kh6 19.Qg6#. This suggests 17.Nxd5 exd5 (else Black loses a pawn) 18.e6: A) 18... Bxe6 19.Nxe6
A.1) 19... Nxe6 20.Qxf5 Nf8 (20... Qd7 21.Qf7+ Kh7 22.Bd3+ Kh6 23.Qg6#) 21.Qf7+ Kh7 22.Rf5 seems to win. A.2) 19... Qe8 20.Qxf5 + -, the pawn on d5 will also fall. B) 18... Nxe6 19.Qxf5
B.1) 19... Nxd4 20.Qf7+ Kh7 21.Bd3+ B(N)f5 22.Rxf5 N(B)xf5 23.Bxf5+ Kh6 24.Qg6#. B.2) 19... Qf8 20.Qxd5 Qg6 (20... Qe8 21.Nxe6 wins) 21.Bd3 and White recovers the piece with two extra pawns at least. C) 18... Be8 19.Nxf5
C.1) 19... Nxe6 20.Qe5
C.1.a) 20... Bd7 21.Qxd5 Rc7 22.Nd4 seems to recover the piece with a considerable advantage. C.1.b) 20... Qd7 21.Rxd5 Qc7 22.Qxe6+ Bf7 23.Qxc8+ Qxc8 24.Nxe7+ wins. C.1.c) 20... Bf7 21.Rxd5 Qc7 22.Bd3 looks unclear but 22... Qxe5 loses to 23.Nxe7+ Kf8 24.Ng6+ and 25.Nxe5. C.2) 19... Bf6 20.e7
C.2.a) 20... Bxe7 21.Rxd5 Qc7 22.Qxc7 Rxc7 23.Nxe7+ Rxe7 24.Rxc5 + - [2P]. C.2.b) 20... Qc7 (threatens 21... Nb3+ and mate next) 21.Qxc7 Rxc7 22.Rxd5 Bxe7 (22... Ne4 23.Bd3) 23.Nxe7+ Rxe7 24.Rxc5 as in C.2.a. |
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| Nov-10-13 | | agb2002: I didn't even think of 17.e4.
I missed 20... Qa5 in my line C.2 with counterattack and probably a winning position for Black. Better luck next Sunday. |
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| Nov-10-13 | | JG27Pyth: Yeah <Goato>, you're right about Nd3+ -- I had in mind the line <fokers13> found :( ... Crap, flunked my own puzzle! That's bad even for Sunday. |
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| Nov-10-13 | | Patriot: Let's see...
17.Nxd5 exd5 18.e6 Bxe6 19.Nxe6 Nxe6 20.Qxf5 looks good. 17.Nxd5 exd5 18.e6 Nxe6 19.Qxf5 Ng5 20.Qxd5+  |
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| Nov-10-13 | | Patriot: <agb2002> Yeah, 17.e4 is rather uneventful and completely off my radar. <morf> Interesting line! |
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| Nov-10-13 | | MostlyWatch: It's interesting that chess pieces can be thought of as "men", or if they are lined up they can be seen as a wall, or a fence, etc. There's a cool show on Netflix called "Ants" I think it is, investigates how each ant isn't very smart, sort of like a little automaton with a set of instructions, but in various situations they can grab onto each other and build ropes, bridges, rafts, etc. |
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| Nov-10-13 | | MiCrooks: Not sure about today's puzzle. Yes, e4 may be the best move in the position, but a puzzle worthy win? Black's big mistake is playing the seemingly innocuous move g5 forcing the Queen to retreat with tempo. The problem is it also severely weakens Black's king (note Qf7+ is now mate). Why not the "obvious" response fxe4 to e4? Qf7+ is not fatal by any means. What is White's response. Qf7+ Kh8 Qxh5+ Kg8? White has a draw in hand but what else. Bg4 Qe8...White has an advantage but material is even and Queens are coming off. |
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Nov-11-13
| | offramp: As I said earlier - and <MiCrooks> agrees with me - I don't think this position is a win. <Offramp> and <MiCrooks>
Were good at finding cooks.
But their greatest contribution
Was a total "No solution." |
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| Nov-11-13 | | Moszkowski012273: Exactly... NOT a puzzle worthy win. 17...fxe4 draws rather easily. |
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| Nov-12-13 | | fokers13: actually <goato>'s Nd3 is inferior(but still winning) due to Kd2. the better continuation is Nb3+!! cutting off the d2 escape route with mate to follow in one no matter what white plays by means of Qxc2#. |
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| Feb-17-15 | | jerseybob: If 17..de 18.Bc4 not only attacks e6 but pins it, making f5 vulnerable. The same seems to be true after 18..de, which is why black plays 18..b5, but after 19.ef white's still winning. If 17..fe, how about holding back the check and playing 18.Bh5!? first? |
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Kibitzing
sac: 21.Nxd5
