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Dec-06-11 | | Pedro Fernandez: 33. Re5 Rxe5 34. Bxe5 Bc6 35. Kd6 it could be. |
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Dec-06-11
 | | Gypsy: <33.Rxe6 Bxe6> 34.Kb6 Bf5 35.Kxb7 Bxd3 ... |
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Dec-06-11 | | beenthere240: Carlsen can force a draw by repetition -- avoids having to offer it. |
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Dec-06-11 | | Kinghunt: Can't Carlsen force a passed b pawn? Am I mistaken in that, or is it simply insufficient to win here? |
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Dec-06-11 | | Pedro Fernandez: Well, once the rooks disappeared this game is over. |
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Dec-06-11
 | | Gypsy: <<33.Rxe6 Bxe6> 34.Kb6 Bf5 35.Kxb7 Bxd3 ...> 36.Kc6 Bf5 ... |
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Dec-06-11 | | YouRang: I wouldn't write it off as a draw yet. It seems Carlsen is better positioned to make trouble by pushing pawns than black. |
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Dec-06-11 | | whiteshark: Daniel ♔ said it still looks tricky, even w/o rooks. |
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Dec-06-11 | | SCUBA diver: 36. K-c6, 37. B-f6, then advance the Q pawns. |
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Dec-06-11 | | beenthere240: To creat a b passer you need pawns on a4 and b4 and move b5. However, as soon as the pawn goes to a4, black attacks it with his bishop and it has to go to a5. end of passer threat. |
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Dec-06-11
 | | Domdaniel: If 36.Kc6 then ...Bb1 is cute. |
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Dec-06-11 | | Ulhumbrus: In the commentary box King and Trent have given at least one variation with a4 and b4 which leads to a win for White. White plays b5 and in reply to ...axb5, a5 and a6. |
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Dec-06-11 | | beenthere240: How about that time pressure?-- 8 minutes for 4 moves. |
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Dec-06-11 | | YouRang: Carlsen needs to watch his clock. |
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Dec-06-11
 | | Gypsy: <Domdaniel: If 36.Kc6 then ...Bb1 is cute.> Yup. While 36...Bf5 seems sufficient, 36...Bb1 looks better still. |
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Dec-06-11
 | | Domdaniel: Kc6 must be drawn. 36.a4 was a bit more challenging, but I think ...Bc2 would've held on. Now ...Bb1 (or ...Bf5, as Gypsy says) should draw. |
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Dec-06-11 | | beenthere240: I think both Bb1 and Bc4 lost, and Kramnik could see why. The standard way to draw this is to get your king in front of the passed pawn -- or to elminate the pawns on the opposite side. |
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Dec-06-11
 | | Domdaniel: Wow. Kramnik puts his trust in the 'who needs pawns if you activate your King' theory. It could be risky. |
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Dec-06-11 | | lost in space: 38. a3 Ba2+ I guess |
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Dec-06-11 | | Ulhumbrus: 37 Kxd5 may have let a win slip. King and Trent's analysis suggests that after 37 b4 Black's bishop is overworked. It cannot both defend the a6 pawn and prevent a4. After a4 White proceeds with b5 and in reply to ...axb5, a5. |
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Dec-06-11 | | beenthere240: Putting the bishop on b3 pretty well holds the queenside! |
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Dec-06-11 | | Marmot PFL: It looks like 3 drawn positions, and since the 4th game is Anand's a draw is likely there as well. |
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Dec-06-11 | | unferth: after a6-a5-a4, how can white make progress? |
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Dec-06-11 | | Sokrates: Been away a couple of hours. Still dead drawn, I see. Or else water begins running upwards. |
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Dec-06-11
 | | Gypsy: <beenthere240: I think both Bb1 and Bc4 lost, and Kramnik could see why.> Could be, but I do not see the win. More likely that these are just different drawing choices. Hopefully, post-mortem will tell. |
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