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| Oct-10-10 | | Softpaw: http://www.chessok.com/broadcast/?k... 29... Nd4 30. Nxd4 cxd4 31. a4 Bf6 32. Kf3 Ke7 33. Rg1 Rh5 34. Rdd1 Kd7 35. Rg4 Rc8 36. Kg2 Bh8 37. Nd3 f5 38. exf5 Rxf5 39. Kf3 Rybka Aquarium (0:01:21) +0.35|d20 white stands slightly better |
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| Oct-10-10 | | aragorn69: Clearly, the "problem with Carlsen" playing Black right now is not - as it used to be until 1-2 years ago - the question of getting out of the opening with a good enough position. The problem is that he gets recently <outplayed> after equalizing. His opening prep is amongst the best, but his form is awful... |
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| Oct-10-10 | | Hesam7: <The alternative 29...Nd4, it seems, didn't equalise - 30.Nxd4 cxd4 31.a4 Bf6 and here instead of all kinds of blockade white attacks the pawn by 32.Ng4 Bg7 33.Nh2! and 34.Nf3. With, to all appearances, a solid edge.> GM Shipov Black has a pretty improvement: 29. ... Nd4 30. Nxd4 cxd4 31. a4 Bf6 32. Ng4 <Bh8!>: 
click for larger viewNow Shipov's original idea does not work: 33. Nh2?! Ke7 34. Nf3 Rg8+ this is the point of moving the bishop to h8 instead of g7 now Black get counterplay on the kingside! For example: 35. Kf2 Rh5 ... The other option is to take the h6-pawn: 33. Nxh6 Ke7 the Black king clears the way for the rook to switch to kingside. 34. Ng4 f5! 35. exf5 Rxf5 36. Rf2 Rdf8 37. Kg3 Bg7 
click for larger viewBlack's d4-pawn has survived and the pressure of his coordinated rooks means White's pawns on the kingside won't move; Black has full compensation for the sacrificed pawn. |
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| Oct-10-10 | | arlevian: <What's happening to Carlsen? This guy let himself distracted by too many activities...>
yeah!!.. thanks to Liv Tyler :D |
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Oct-10-10
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| Oct-10-10 | | messachess: On Carlsen: He's almost 20. Obviously, he has the potential to be the greatest of all time.
But, so did some others perhaps. He's in a slump; he'll pull out
of it.
And, maybe he needs to take a break. Fischer did in 1969. Of Course, Kaspy never did. He bulled his way through. It's impossible to predict the eventualities of so young a player. I'm sure he'll keep playing. Whatever the problem is, it's not chess. It's probably as simple as growing pains. |
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| Oct-10-10 | | Eyal: <Ezzy> Thanks, mate… <Black has a pretty improvement: 29. ... Nd4 30. Nxd4 cxd4 31. a4 Bf6 32. Ng4 <Bh8!> […] 33. Nxh6 Ke7 the Black king clears the way for the rook to switch to kingside. 34. Ng4 f5! 35. exf5 Rxf5 36. Rf2 Rdf8 37. Kg3 Bg7. Black’s d4-pawn has survived and the pressure of his coordinated rooks means White's pawns on the kingside won't move; Black has full compensation for the sacrificed pawn.> Isn’t this refuted by 34.Re1? This way White prevents …f5, with the idea of continuing Ng4 and f5 (or even f5 immediately) himself. Carlsen probably considered something like Shipov's line after 29…Nd4 and didn’t like the passive nature of Black’s position, and he failed to appreciate how dangerous is the lack of coordination between his pieces in an open position created by the sequence of moves 29-33 as played in the game. Apparently, the move Carlsen criticized in the press conference was actually 28…gxf4 – he thought the …d5 idea failed because of the play White got on the g file. |
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| Oct-10-10 | | ozmikey: Some beautiful endgame play by Kramnik here, worthy of Capablanca. |
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| Oct-10-10 | | Mr. Bojangles: <GM Carlsen is not just a kid; he is a veteran super GM with at least 5 years worth of intensive international tournament experience tucked under his belt. As explained in another way, the Carlsen of today has probably played as many or even more international chess games than the Capablanca of 1919, the Alekhine of 1924, the Botvinnik of 1946, the Karpov of 1972, the Kasparov of 1983, the Anand of 1991. He is their superior in terms of chess experience, even if all of them were older than him.> Very well observed. |
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| Oct-10-10 | | Hesam7: <Eyal: <Black has a pretty improvement: 29. ... Nd4 30. Nxd4 cxd4 31. a4 Bf6 32. Ng4 <Bh8!> […] 33. Nxh6 Ke7 the Black king clears the way for the rook to switch to kingside. 34. Ng4 f5! 35. exf5 Rxf5 36. Rf2 Rdf8 37. Kg3 Bg7. Black’s d4-pawn has survived and the pressure of his coordinated rooks means White's pawns on the kingside won't move; Black has full compensation for the sacrificed pawn.> Isn’t this refuted by 34.Re1? This way White prevents …f5, with the idea of continuing Ng4 and f5 (or even f5 immediately) himself.> After 29. ... Nd4 30. Nxd4 cxd4 31. a4 Bf6 32. Ng4 Bh8 33. Nxh6 Ke7 34. Re1: 
click for larger viewBlack still can play against the kingside: 34. ... Rh5 35. Ng4 Rg8 36. f5 Be5: 
click for larger viewNow Black is threatening Rxg4-Rh2-Rxd2 winning a piece and the White king can not move freely because the h3-pawn is weak. I still think Black has full compensation the game might go on with 37. Rf2 Rgh8 38. Rh1 exf5 39. Rxf5 (39. exf5 f6 looks similar) 39. ... Rxf5 40. exf5 Rh5 ... again what happens is that in all these lines Black manages to maintain equality. |
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| Oct-10-10 | | ozmikey: Looking at this game again, I'm wondering why Carlsen didn't play the freeing ...d5 when he had the chance on move 20 (or the next move). Instead, this strange re-routing of the knight appeared to achieve nothing. When he finally did play 29...d5, White was already master of the position. |
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| Oct-10-10 | | Marmot PFL: I didn't get the impression that either played all that well (maybe nerves) but that Carlsen made too many mistakes. |
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| Oct-10-10 | | kramputz: Carlsen has a new girlfriend.He is in love. Good for him !
Remember this;
God made man and rested. Later God made woman, ever since nobody ever rested. |
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| Oct-10-10 | | BobCrisp: < Albertan: With the help of the World's strongest chess program, Deep Rybka 4x64, I have analyzed this game in great detail and posted this analysis to the first page of my blog at http://albertan1956.blogspot.com/ using the program Chessviewer Deluxe. I hope you drop by my blog and play through this analysis.> I can't find it and have no inclination to go looking for it. You need to learn something about web design. |
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Oct-10-10
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7Ld... |
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| Oct-10-10 | | sallom89: Karmnik never stops upsetting Kasparov !! great game ! |
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| Oct-10-10 | | morphy2010: Kramnik is his name and he defeated Carlson not Kasparov like in 2000. |
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| Oct-10-10 | | Bdellovibrio: Carlsen is his name and <sallom89> was joking. |
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| Oct-10-10 | | morphy2010: oh thanks for the info. |
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| Oct-10-10 | | goldenbear: Does 35.Rb4 not help? Black's position looks difficult to me, but Ra5 rules out Black defending with Rg6 should White move to the g-file. I don't have a computer program and I am questioning Carlsen, so take my advice for what it's worth, but I would expect to draw if I were playing Black in the position after 35.Rb4. |
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| Oct-10-10 | | goldenbear: I went back to page one to read the comments and now I see that 35.Rb4 was already pointed out by <Eyal>, et. al. Sorry to beat a dead horse... |
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| Oct-10-10 | | rapidcitychess: <Morphy2010>
I think he was referring to that Kasparov was Carlsen's trainer for a while. |
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| Oct-10-10 | | notyetagm: <visayanbraindoctor: ... I see that Carlsen has only played Sjugirov among the rising young GMs in the Olympiad; too bad other youngsters like GMs So, Giri, Nepo, and Le were not able to play him.> Le Quang Liem is *very* strong. |
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| Oct-10-10 | | Kaspablanca: Guys, the fact is that Anand and Kramnik are still a bit higher than Carlsen despite his high rating. Carlsen can be world champion when those guys retire. |
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| Oct-10-10 | | Atking: I like your idea <Hesam7> but I'm not sure to understand completely
<Now Shipov's original idea does not work: 33. Nh2?! Ke7 34. Nf3 Rg8+ this is the point of moving the bishop to h8 instead of g7 now Black get counterplay on the kingside! For example: 35. Kf2 Rh5 ...> Why not 35.Kh2 with the idea on 35...e5 to put the N on d3 or even better on d5 (d3-b4-d5) e.g 36.f5 Bf6 37.Rg1 RxR+ 38.KxR Bg5 39.Rg2? Still I think we agree that Kramnik won here a high strategical battle. |
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