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Jun-19-10 | | Jim Bartle: Unnecessary, but flashier: Wouldn't 31...Qd1+ have won as well? |
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Jun-19-10 | | BobCrisp: 31...Qd1+ would win for White. |
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Jun-19-10 | | newzild: What is the winning attack?
31...Rd1+ 32.Rxd1 Qxd1+ 33.Ka2 and now 33...Re1 34.Qc4 creates a flight square, and I don't immediately see anything better for black. |
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Jun-19-10 | | newzild: ...oh, I see now. 34...Qa1+ 35.Kb3 Rb1.
Forgive me, for I am a doofus. |
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Jun-19-10 | | Jim Bartle: "31...Qd1+ would win for White."
Oops, I forgot about the chance for white to move the queen on move 34. |
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Jun-19-10 | | hardliner: This win looked so easy. Flawless play by Carlsen. |
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Jun-19-10 | | Marmot PFL: Just place a knight on a7 and relax, for your game will play itself. |
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Jun-19-10 | | mrriddler: <Jim> Well, yeah I guess that would win too. But White isn't going to be mated here so like you said, probably unnecessarily showy. 31... Qd1+?! 32. Rxd1, Rxd1+ 33. Ka2, Re1 34. Qa3 (escape for king), Bxa3
Black is up a full rook, and it would be pretty silly for White to keep playing, but still... Note that white can't even take the bishop with 35. bxa3 because of Rb1+ followed by Rxb6. |
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Jun-19-10 | | Jim Bartle: No, I think I was wrong because the queen can move to c4. |
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Jun-19-10 | | mrriddler: <Jim Bartle> Oh damn, you're right. Qc4 would make the queen sac useless. I forgot that Black couldn't take on b2 after Re1, Rb1 in this variation. Nice. |
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Jun-19-10 | | twinlark: <Marmot PFL: Just place a knight on a7 and relax, for your game will play itself.> Heh. All the way to <resigns>. |
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Jun-19-10 | | andreagiananti: can anyone make sense of the white knight on a7? |
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Jun-19-10 | | jmboutiere: 31.Bc1 would have been better
Opening repertoire of Carlsen is impresive |
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Jun-19-10 | | Starf1re: oddly rybka also recommends 12) na7 and evaluates it as ~+.3. 13)nxc8 seems a lot stronger for white. |
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Jun-20-10 | | wordfunph: white's knight on a7 turned into a heavy excess baggage for Nisi while Carlsen's minor pieces joined the party. :) go Magnus! |
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Jun-20-10
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Jun-20-10 | | 4tmac: yeah, Nisi had till move 15 for NxB. After that, his pieces went passive while Carlsen's came to life. |
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Jun-20-10 | | percyblakeney: Nisipeanu doesn't just lose with white against the young players this year, even a veteran like Carlsen could beat him like So and Giri did. |
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Jun-20-10 | | wordfunph: "It is hard to pinpoint what he did wrong, but some minor inaccuracies quickly allowed me to improve my position. After he returned the pawn (on g5) it is already difficult for white." - Magnus Carlsen
after 18...Qxg5, black is in control of the game. |
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Jun-20-10 | | Ulhumbrus: On the chessbase website here is GM Dorian Rogozenco's remark on Nisipeanu's fifteenth move 15 Bf2 and Carlses'd reply 15...Bd7: <The first critical moment. 15.Bf2. This apparently logical continuation removing the bishop from the e-file has a serious drawback – it leaves the problem of the knight on a7. Since his main concern should be the stuck knight, White had to consider 15.Nxc8 d4 (weaker is 15...Rxc8 16.exd5 exd5 17.Nxd5) 16.Bf2 Rxc8 17.Ne2 and although Black solved all opening problems, White has a normal position. 15...Bd7! > |
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Jun-20-10 | | ounos: I'm impressed. Especially Carlsen's graceful handling of this position: click for larger viewWhat can Na7 do? It can take the horrible-looking (for now!) Bc8. Perhaps he should. 13. Nxc8 Qxc8, and black doesn't lose the pawn (e.g. 14. exd5 exd5 15. Nxd5? Nxd5 16. Qxd5 Rd8 oops). But capturing Nc6 would be even worse, opening the b file for black rook, and let it coordinate with a monster waiting to wake, Bg7. So it ended up doing neither.
13. ...Re8, nice move, seeing exd5 of course. Also notice that 15. Nxc8 is "too late", black doesn't have to capture back immediately (the knight isn't going anywhere!), 15. ...d4.  click for larger viewAnd 15. ...Bd7. The bishop got away! And the only exit of Na7 is through Nxc6, but then the previously modest Bc8 becomes a powerful monster on c6. The next 10 moves by Carlsen are also very neat - the position is open, black pieces are rather exposed under attack (especially Bd7), and yet he managed to get everything out easily and smoothly, as if white was not there. This is the culmination of black's efforts:  click for larger viewBy that point, and probably quite earlier than that, white had very well realized how greatly he was outplayed. |
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Jun-20-10 | | ounos: Sorry, the second diagram should have been:
 click for larger view(Bishop at e3, not at f2) |
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Jun-20-10 | | xanadu: "the harmonius development and cooperative work of the pieces..", always present in Carlsen.
Compared with the Knight of Nisipeanu in a7..., there is something to learn. Nisipeanu moved a centralized Knight to a7...,. Then, he could exchanged it by the Black Bishop or Knight: why he didn´t? |
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Jun-20-10 | | belgradegambit: I've played the Dragon for over 40 years. A few points: 12. Na7 is quite common see Naiditsch vs G Guseinov, 2003 for instance. <Tamar> Carsen obviously has won numerous games against the Yugoslav attack, B76 is just one variation. http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... Unfortunately the general opinion here and at Chesspub.com is that the Dragon is borderline unsound. That's why us Dragon fans love Carlsen. He plays it knowing full well that opponents expect it and are prepared. |
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Sep-26-10 | | thegoodanarchist: <Marmot PFL: Just place a knight on a7 and relax, for your game will play itself.> LOL that is funny |
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