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| Oct-09-09 | | virginmind: missed it too.
bravo carlsen. |
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| Oct-09-09 | | amadeus: Keep the red shirt |
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| Oct-09-09 | | euripides: More a lap of honour than a game of chess. |
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| Oct-09-09 | | shintaro go: Jakovenko played for the early draw but got smashed by Carlsen. Simply amazing. |
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| Oct-09-09 | | SimonWebbsTiger: after the games in KK recently and now here, I doubt ...Be7-d6/...Ne7 is going to catch on. The thing that interested me is Magnus chose Nf3 and not Nge2, the latter being Garry's choice in the rapid match v. Karpov. Obvious stylistic difference? As a Dane - tillykke Magnus. Godt gaet! 8/10 og 2800 er simpelthen fantastisk. |
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| Oct-09-09 | | A Karpov Fan: What a win... :-) |
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| Oct-09-09 | | macpx: My first impression was - it was all set up. Cause black played this game like a retard. But it's hard to believe they would do that |
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| Oct-09-09 | | birthtimes: Nigel did not provide half the analysis that Natalia has, and I hope he doesn't come back here to do commentary unless he actually does commentary... |
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| Oct-09-09 | | hedgeh0g: This game really looks like a blitz game to me: simple opening and very simple ideas of pushing pawns forward. Well played by Carlsen nonetheless. |
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| Oct-09-09 | | capatal: Bravo! Magnus Carlsen for a magnificent tournament performance!
Magnus is the fifth player in chess history to reach 2800! |
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| Oct-09-09 | | Eyal: <The thing that interested me is Magnus chose Nf3 and not Nge2, the latter being Garry's choice in the rapid match v. Karpov. Obvious stylistic difference?> Well, Kasparov said in an interview <I had certain ideas, but I also had some restrictions, because I did not want to play anything that could jeopardise my work with Magnus, because he needs ideas in China more than I need here.> (http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail...). So maybe this was an example... One of the interesting things about this game is how all the piece exchanges don't help Black to ease White's pressure at all - they just seem to make it worse. The central break 13.e4! is played in the right timing, since due to his lack in development Black gets quickly into trouble if he takes on e4 - 13...dxe4 14.Nxe4 Qc7 (or other queen moves) 15.Qa3! The game reaches a critical moment after 26.Nxd5 - instead of Qxd5 Black could try 26...Nc5, which may lead to the forcing line 27.f6! Red8! 28.e6! Nxe6 29.f7+ Kf8 (29...Kh8 30.Rxe6! Qxe6 31.Nc7 Qe7 32.Nxa8
Rxa8 33.Qe5!!) 30.Qh4 Qxd5 31.Qxh7 Ke7 32.Qxg7 Qd4+ 33.Qxd4 Rxd4 34.f8=Q+ Rxf8 35.Rxf8 Kxf8 36.Rxe6: 
click for larger viewwhich seems to give White pretty good winning chances. |
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| Oct-09-09 | | Eyal: PS In the line 26...Nc5 27.f6! Red8! 28.e6! Nxe6 29.f7+ Kh8 30.Rxe6! Qxe6 31.Nc7 Qe7 32.Nxa8 Rxa8 33.Qe5!!, in case of 33...Qf8 White is winning after 34.Qf5, to be followed by Re1-Qh5-Re8, where Black is helpless. |
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| Oct-09-09 | | ROADDOG: Carlsens play seemed effortless and accurate with a simple plan: Develop your pieces, control the center, never give opponent the initiative, roll your e and f pawns like sherman tanks, win game. Congrats to Magnus Carlsen on an extraordinary tournament. |
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| Oct-09-09 | | beenthere240: It's funny how nobody liked 26. Nxd5 during the game, but how relentlessly logical it seems now. Gives black absolutely no counterchances. |
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| Oct-09-09 | | twoinchgroup: macpx said:
<My first impression was - it was all set up. Cause black played this game like a retard. But it's hard to believe they would do that> Interesting how macpx neglects to demonstrate HOW IT IS that black played like a retard. Apparently when macpx says a certain thing it must be true by virtue of macpx just simply stating it. I am sure that macpx has played almost his entire life in 2760 level tournaments and can speak with complete authority when he states that black played like a retard. My only hesitation here is that by commenting on macpx's verbal "evacution of the bowels" I might in turn step in it. Go away macpx... |
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| Oct-09-09 | | patzer2: I suspect we might see 26. Nxd5!! as a future puzzle. It's a neat combination to win a pawn with a strong initiative. The main point of the combination is that after 26. Nxd5!! Nc5 27. f6!  White still retains his extra pawn with advantage. |
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Oct-10-09
 | | Gypsy: <Eyal: ...
The game reaches a critical moment after 26.Nxd5 - instead of Qxd5 Black could try 26...Nc5, which may lead to the forcing line 27.f6! Red8! 28.e6! Nxe6 29.f7+ Kf8 (29...Kh8 30.Rxe6! Qxe6 31.Nc7 Qe7 32.Nxa8 Rxa8 33.Qe5!!) 30.Qh4 Qxd5 31.Qxh7 Ke7 32.Qxg7 Qd4+ 33.Qxd4 Rxd4 34.f8=Q+ Rxf8 35.Rxf8 Kxf8 36.Rxe6 ...> Cool. But I am still unsure about some side branches. For instance, I am drawing blanks after the intermezzo <31... Qd4+>, instead of the immediate 31...Ke7, in the main variation. |
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| Oct-10-09 | | Eyal: <Gypsy> With the queens left on the board White's attack is too strong. [26...Nc5 27.f6! Red8! 28.e6! Nxe6 29.f7+ Kf8 30.Qh4 Qxd5 31.Qxh7] <31...Qd4+> 32.Kh1 Ke7 (forced - to defend both the knight and against Qh8+ threats) 33.Qf5 and now, for example: 33...Qf6 (trying to keep the queen on the long diagonal, to defend g7) 34.Qe4 Qh6 35.Qxc6 and Black has no good defence against a lethal f8=Q+ followed by Qb7+. 33...Qd5 34.Re5 Qxa2 (34... Qd6 35.Rfe1 and Black cannot defend the knight a third time, since there's no Rd6) 35.Qg5+ Kf8 (35...Kd7/d6 36.Rd1+) 36.Qh4 to be followed by Qh8+ and Qxg7. 33.Qd6 34.Re3 (to double on the e-file) 34...Rh8 35.h3 and White has too many threats - Qg4/Qg6 with Rd1/Rd3, or Qxg7, or Rfe1... |
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| Oct-10-09 | | Eyal: <beenthere240: It's funny how nobody liked 26. Nxd5 during the game, but how relentlessly logical it seems now.> Yeah, "relentlessly logical" is actually a good description of Carlsen's play as a whole here. Some of his games in this tournament begin to remind me of Fischer's style in this respect. |
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Oct-10-09
 | | JointheArmy: <It's funny how nobody liked 26. Nxd5 during the game, but how relentlessly logical it seems now.> More like Rybka didn't 26. Nxd5 until it was over. |
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| Oct-10-09 | | Ezzy: <It's funny how nobody liked 26. Nxd5 during the game, but how relentlessly logical it seems now.> If I may say, I was the first to notice the idea :-)
Carlsen vs D Jakovenko, 2009 |
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Oct-11-09
| | Gypsy: <Eyal> Thx!
Ok, I was at least in the ballpark; I was worried about missing something really elementary and transparent. |
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| Oct-12-09 | | notyetagm: 13 ?
click for larger view13 e3-e4!
click for larger viewCarlsen's 13 e3-e4! is a *great* example of <TACTICS IN THE SERVICE OF STRATEGY>: tactics let White play the desirable e3-e4 pawn advance, creating a powerful <KINGSIDE PAWN ROLLER>. MONOKROUSSOS: http://chessmind.powerblogs.com/fil... <13.e4! Just in time, before ...Nf6 makes e4 into an undynamic tradefest.13...0-0 <[13...dxe4? is the normal move. It isolates White's d-pawn, makes d5 available and stops the pawn roller plan in the game before it gets started. This is all too obvious to mention for a 2700, so there must be a reason Jakovenko avoided this. And there is:> 14.Nxe4 Qc7 (14...Qd5 <<<15.Qa3!>>> Nf5 (15...Qxe4? 16.Rfe1  ) 16.Rfe1 0-0-0 17.Qxa7 ) <<<15.Qa3!>>> c5 16.dxc5 bxc5 17.Rac1 ]> 15 ♕d3-a3! is the move which makes 13 e3-e4! possible in both variations. |
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| Oct-12-09 | | notyetagm: 13 ?
click for larger viewhttp://www.chessvibes.com/reports/c...: <13. e4!
click for larger viewDue to his lack in development Black cannot take on e4 here. 13... O-O
<<<13... dxe4 14. Nxe4 Qc7 15. Qa3! >>> (VAR)
15 ♕d3-a3!
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| Jan-01-23 | | Gaito: This is the typical Carlsen game, where the young Norwegian master played with a simple and clear plan throughout (to advance his K-side pawn majority) and at the same time he didn't give his opponent the least chance of counterplay. Chess is made to look simple when played by Magnus.
After 34.h4 Black was a in a bad way, but 34...c5? just accelerated his demise (34...Ke7 would have put up more resistance) |
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