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| Oct-05-10 | | SamAtoms1980: 45 Qxc8+!! First knockdown.
45 ... Kxc8 46 Re8+ Second knockdown, and it's a TKO on the next move. |
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| Oct-05-10 | | dzechiel: <diagonalley: <dzechiel> ... (i know it'll be no consolation but i picked Qe3 also...DOH!)> You have been a member with chessgames for nearly a year, and today was your first post. I tried to check out your profile, but you haven't filled it in. I encourage all members to tell something about yourself in your profile, and all premium members to enable their personal forum. |
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| Oct-05-10 | | whiteshark: Easier than y'days one. |
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| Oct-05-10 | | lostgalaxy: "So what's next after Arabian?"
"Me", said my roommate. |
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 | | scormus: <Eggman .. Laslo Polgar book> That's some volume! A friend of mine saw it in a shop and bought it for me - what a surorise I got. Great puzzles, but I'm not sure whether its meant for training Hungarian chess players or weightlifters. I confess I was one of the people who rushed in with the material-winning move yesterday - like many times before. But I was more careful today. |
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| Oct-05-10 | | bambino3: lol i saw Qe3, clearly crushing. didn't even consider that queen sac!!! also very nice. |
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| Oct-05-10 | | gofer: 45 Qxc8+ Kc8 (Kb6 46 Qb8#) 46 Re8+ Kb7 (Kd7 Rd8#) 47 Rb8# The only question is how long had white had this combination lying around or how long had they been planning it? Time to check! |
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| Oct-05-10 | | agb2002: White has a rook and a knight for the bishop pair.
Pattern recognition immediately suggests 45.Qxc8+:
A) 45... Kxc8 46.Re8+ and mate next.
B) 45... Kb6 46.Qb8#. |
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| Oct-05-10 | | agb2002: <dzechiel:
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A much more elegant finish than the one I came up with. That'll teach me to take the "Easy" difficulty rating seriously.> If it helps, I find 45.Qe3 more elegant than 45.Qxc8+ (although this is best) because of the way it uses the geometry of the board. |
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| Oct-05-10 | | Ratt Boy: If this were a Monday, everyone would've been looking for the Q-sac and would've found it instantly. |
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| Oct-05-10 | | zb2cr: I like this one. I started off by considering the 45. Qxc8+ move, which is why I got the mate in 3 line after some 45 seconds or so of thought. |
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| Oct-05-10 | | tallinn: The problem could have started one move earlier as Nc6+ does enforce the mate. Or am I missing something? |
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| Oct-05-10 | | CHESSTTCAMPS: <Gilmoy: .......
<18..a6 45..d'ohh>> A clever thought, but even if black had the pawn on a7 instead of a6, white would still have a very pretty mate with 45.Qxc8+ Kxc8 46.Re8+ Kb7 47.Rb8+ Ka6 48.b5#. |
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| Oct-05-10 | | johnlspouge: < <agb2002> wrote: Pattern recognition immediately suggests 45.Qxc8+: [snip] If it helps, I find 45.Qe3 more elegant than 45.Qxc8+ (although this is best) because of the way it uses the geometry of the board. [snip] > I also found 45.Qxc8+ rapidly by pattern recognition, but 45.Qe3 shows some real thought... Is real thought good or bad? :) |
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| Oct-05-10 | | Patriot: 45.Qxc8+ Kxc8 46.Re8+ Kb7 (46...Kd7 47.Rd8#) 47.Rb8# all looks forcing enough. There's also a possibility of 45...Qb6, which looks like it gives up material for nothing but actually it gives back material in a position that is still dynamic. But black's counterplay quickly ends with 46.Qb8#. |
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| Oct-05-10 | | jussu: 45... Kb6 46. Qb8# is the polite finish. |
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| Oct-05-10 | | Patriot: <johnlspouge> Hello John! IMHO, "real thought" is another way of saying "more complex" and usually a bad idea in an otherwise simple winning position. "Real thought" is usually what you want your opponent to be forced into if he/she is winning. But for practice, it can be a different matter. For example, I now go to two different chess tactics websites to practice different areas of my thought process. One forces me to make quick decisions and therefore look for best moves in a short time span, while the other allows me to analyze before making any moves in more complex positions and helps more in the area of board vision and decision making. 45.Qe3 would be good practice in exercising board vision and decision making. This logic would be bad in an actual game setting though. I think this distinction is really important to understand for those kibitzer's that come here to improve their game. |
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| Oct-05-10 | | jussu: Oh, 45. Qe3 is cool; much nicer and harder to find than the banal 45. Qxc8. |
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| Oct-05-10 | | ttigue: 45. Qe3 Qxe2+ 46. Qxe2...and the white Q is pulled off the mating diagonal. Of course, this only delays the inevitable. Better is Qxc8+ which I didn't see so no points for me. |
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| Oct-05-10 | | turbo231: <whiteshark: Easier than y'days one.> Yes I missed yesterday's, Nd2 got me, but got today's puzzle. But it took a good 5 minutes to figure it out. The continuation is neat. |
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| Oct-05-10 | | turbo231: <Patriot:But for practice, it can be a different matter. For example, I now go to two different chess tactics websites to practice different areas of my thought process. One forces me to make quick decisions and therefore look for best moves in a short time span, while the other allows me to analyze before making any moves in more complex positions and helps more in the area of board vision and decision making.> Care to share those two chess tactics websites? |
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| Oct-05-10 | | Formula7: 45.Qxc8+ and now either Kb6 46.Qb8# or Kxc8 46.Re8+ Kb7 47.Rb8#. Time to check. |
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| Oct-05-10 | | Patriot: <turbo231> <Care to share those two chess tactics websites?> No problem. "Chess Tactics Server" (chess.emrald.net) for practicing pattern recognition where you are expected to solve in about 3 seconds, and "Chess Tempo" (chesstempo.com) which gives a lot more time to solve before it detracts from rating points. I think that making use of both of these sites covers several major areas of problem solving. Both are free. Chess Tempo is free for practicing standard tactics, but I bought a membership to mostly see where my weaknesses are tactically. It groups them based on tactical theme and success rate and allows you to only practice tactics that you wish to focus on. This is a very powerful feature to help you improve. |
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| Oct-05-10 | | kevin86: Amazing twin Arabian Mates:
If the right one won't get you- 45♕xc8+ ♔xc8 46 ♖e8+ ♔d7 47 ♖d8# then the left one will...46...♔b7 47 ♖b8# |
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| Oct-05-10 | | MiCrooks: Any win suffices but it is a puzzle so Qxc8+ with a quick mate is clearly better than Qe3 where Black would also resign but can delay things with QxR. Not only that but Black has other ways of delaying things as well like moving the Bishop off c8 perhaps after QxR. Pattern recognition is a key to better chess play. This is a key mating pattern that every player should be familiar with. I find the power of the R+N combo quite elegant and a model of efficiency. |
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