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Feb-23-08 | | boz: Wow slick finish. |
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Feb-23-08 | | hedgeh0g: Nice one, Shirov! |
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Feb-23-08 | | just a kid: It's alright I predicted unheard of things so I guess it's my fault. |
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Feb-23-08 | | just a kid: Exactly how does white win? |
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Feb-23-08 | | talisman: ewwwwww yes....♕ checks ♖-f2 sweet. |
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Feb-23-08 | | boz: Shirov's brain still seems to be functioning fairly well. |
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Feb-23-08 | | Eyal: <just a kid> After the rook moves Qc4+ and Ra2 trapping the black queen. |
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Feb-23-08 | | A.G. Argent: Good game. |
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Feb-23-08
 | | chessgames.com: Hearty thanks to everybody for participating in our live chess broadcast from Morelia during the past few days. The tournament will now travel across the globe to conclude in Linares, Spain as the players enjoy four consecutive rest days. The next round will be on Thursday, February 28th, at 9:30am (USA/Eastern). We hope to see you then. -- The Chessgames.com Staff |
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Feb-23-08 | | talisman: that should read ♖-a2....pretty finish. |
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Feb-23-08 | | just a kid: Thanks for going pawn grabbing Radjabov! |
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Feb-23-08 | | Eyal: Well, the a3-b4 idea worked very well, though Radja might have defended better... As was mentioned earlier, engines suggested a more forcing line starting with 41.Nf4!: 41....Qf7 42.g6 Qf8 43.Nh3 with ideas of Qc4+ and Ng5; or 42...Qf6 43.Nd5! cxd5 (otherwise Qxf5!) 44.Qxd5+ Kh8 45.Qxd7 Qxg6 46.Qxb7. |
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Feb-23-08 | | Eyal: Up until 15...g4 they were following the game Taimanov vs Aronin, 1952 (well, not for nothing it is called the Taimanov variation...) |
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Feb-23-08 | | hedgeh0g: Man, Shirov is the spitting image of Dave Mustaine. ROCK ON!!! |
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Feb-23-08 | | ajile: Uncommon opening? Looks like a King's Indian to me. |
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Feb-23-08 | | Akavall: About time somebody tried 9. Ne1 against KID, and it's about time somebody beat Radjabov's KID. |
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Feb-24-08 | | Abejorral: Cheers Shirov!!! I love seeing Radjabov losing and specially playing his KID. |
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Feb-24-08 | | Davolni: <Abejorral: Cheers Shirov!!! I love seeing Radjabov losing and specially playing his KID.> Soon you may have to "explain" <ahmadov> that you are not armenian. :) |
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Feb-24-08 | | percyblakeney: Not often you see Radjabov getting a position like this in the KID, Shirov actually seemed to be close to winning already after sixteen moves, and even if his 21. g3 was an inaccuracy he played the rest of the game very well. After losing the first game with white Shirov has been the big surprise in Morelia. |
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Feb-24-08 | | notyetagm: <percyblakeney: ... After losing the first game with white Shirov has been the big surprise in Morelia.> Yes, after the first round Shirov went +2 while Leko went -3. |
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Feb-24-08 | | Dr. Funkenstein: Would Radjabov have been better off delaying 15. ...g4 and instead trying 15 ... Rf7 so that Nb5 can be answered with Ng6? |
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Feb-24-08 | | nescio: <Dr. Funkenstein: Would Radjabov have been better off delaying 15. ...g4 and instead trying 15 ... Rf7 so that Nb5 can be answered with Ng6?> That's a good, but very old idea. After Aronin's catastrophe against Taimanov (Taimanov vs Aronin, 1952) Gligoric and Trifunovic concluded that Black's best set-up was Ng6, Rf7 (to protect c7), Bf8 (to protect d6) and Rg7, but that the move h7-h5 shlould be avoided initially, reserving the square h5 for a knight to strenghten the attack.
Look at the following games to see the practical implementation of their ideas:
Eliskases vs Gligoric, 1953
Najdorf vs P Trifunovic, 1953
Taimanov vs Najdorf, 1953
I would like to know if the ideas about the position after 13.Nd3 have changed, Radjabov simply disagrees with the old Yugoslav analysis, or if perhaps he didn't know about the history. In later games Taimanov avoided Be3, playing Bd2 instead. |
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Feb-24-08 | | Landzhev: What the hell is that above the diagram <Uncommon Opening (A00)>? It's a classical continuation in KID, it's a E98/E99 I think... been in top gm practice half a century or more, pretty "common". (truly impressive, Shirov's play, btw) |
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Feb-24-08 | | nescio: <Landzhev>< Please calm down... The game is only a few hours old and has probably not yet been prcoessed through the appropriate software. They will no doubt do this when they wake up. |
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Feb-24-08 | | Ulhumbrus: 15..g4 ends up offering a pawn on g4. 15..Bd7 gets the QB out and hinders the move Nb5. |
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