Nov-06-21
 | | Honza Cervenka: 32.g4? allows elegant finish with sac of the Queen. 32.g3 was more stubborn defense, though black was better anyway. |
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Jan-06-25
 | | Teyss: Ach, gut olt times wen we coult sink the first stanza "Germany above oll / Above oll in ze worlt." It'z biutiful, martial and dominatink az it shoult be. Now we are stuck wiz ze wimpy zird stanza "Unity and justiz and fridom". Sissies. |
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Jan-06-25
| | Teyss: Svidler vs Khismatullin, 2015 (kibitz #106) |
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| Jan-06-25 | | Captain Hindsight: 
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| Jan-06-25 | | Delboy: Coming a day after Huebner's passing, this pun, with its association to Nazi Germany due to the winner's nationality, is in particularly bad taste. If you want to make jokes about Nazis, find a real one (I can think of 2 former world champs). I feel that CG owes Huebner an apology |
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| Jan-06-25 | | stone free or die: Blame <Missy>'s sense of irony. |
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| Jan-06-25 | | Nina Myers: It's only January 6th and we've already hit the new low for 2025. It leaves an exceedingly bad taste because it's so dumb in this context. |
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| Jan-06-25 | | thegoldenband: <Teyss: Now we are stuck wiz ze wimpy zird stanza "Unity and justiz and fridom". Sissies.> Sissies vat? You lift out ze adjectif, so I don't know vat you are sinking. Sissies a veirt vay to write a sentence, I sink, but coult be sissies chust ze vay you write. |
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| Jan-06-25 | | thegoldenband: P.S. I'd honestly thought Huebner had died years ago, and now I wonder who I was confusing him with: Uhlmann, maybe? In any event, R.I.P. |
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Jan-06-25
| | Teyss: <thegoldenband> 😉 "Sissies" a pun of dubious taste. I didn't know Huebner passed away, which makes it worse as it doesn't rise to the occasion. Huebner was a great player, arguably the greatest German one post-WWII, reaching the Candidates four times. Probably not the calibre of a World Champion though, especially since if he had progressed further he would have met invincible players like Fischer, Karpov or Kasparov. In memoriam: Jansa vs Huebner, 1969 |
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Jan-06-25
 | | Williebob: I think there is a chance greater than zero that Doctor Huebner would have cracked a smile at today's game title. |
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| Jan-06-25 | | goodevans: <Williebob> One or both of us is a little off the mark here. Either you’re unaware of the acute embarrassment most Germans have over their former <Deutschland über alles> anthem or I’m ignorant of Huebner’s exception to that general trend. Happy to be educated if the latter’s the case. |
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Jan-06-25
| | Williebob: <goodevans>, I confess that the subject of the song has never come up in my conversations with German relatives and acquaintances (my mother was from the Frankfurt area), so it could be that I have stepped in it bad. However, many Germans I've known and met have a devilishly dark sense of humor, with a bit of self-deprecation sometimes as well. My German half was not personally offended, anyhow. |
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Jan-07-25
| | Honza Cervenka: <this pun, with its association to Nazi Germany> Well, the association of words from the lyrics written in 1841 as the "Deutshenlied" on melody of Joseph Haydn's "Gott erhalte Franz den Kaiser", composed in 1797 as an anthem for the birthday of the Holy Roman emperor Francis II and later used as the national anthem of Austrian monarchy to "Nazi Germany" is quite loose and disputable. In fact, back in 1840s it was a revolutionary song of German liberals dreaming about unification of then fragmented Germany. It became the national anthem of Wiemar republic in 1922, and its only "connection to Nazi Germany" was the fact that Hitler decided not to replace it with Nazi Party anthem "Die Fahne hoch" (Horst-Wessel-Lied) and to make of it just a co-anthem together with the first stanza of the Deutschenlied. If there is a problem with the first stanza of the Deutschenlied, then it is the verse "von der Maas bis an die Memel, von der Etsch bis an den Belt" (from the Meuse to the Memel, from the Adige to the Little Belt), which is geographically a little bit overstretched and outdated. |
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| Jan-07-25 | | ndg2: My first thought (native German here): "what a bad pun". But on second thought, it's acutally clever and funny. |
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Jan-07-25
 | | MissScarlett: Gentlemen, you must allow non-Germans the honour of being offended on your behalf. |
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| Jan-07-25 | | Delboy: (native German here) There is a reason why the first stanza of the former German national anthem is no longer part of the current anthem. "ueber alles", literally "above all", practically defines the supremacist ideology. Figuratively it goes beyond the question of geographic expansion. Anyone singing the first stanza these days in Germany would immediately be defining themselves as a neo-Nazi. The matter is therefore sensitive. I think that Huebner would be hurt if he knew that this is how CG chose to mark his death |
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Jan-07-25
| | Honza Cervenka: <There is a reason why the first stanza of the former German national anthem is no longer part of the current anthem. "ueber alles", literally "above all", practically defines the supremacist ideology.> The anthem of Germany is the same all the time since 1922. The only change was the switch of official text from the first stanza to the third one after 1945. The phrase "über alles" in the text is clearly connected to the land (Germany), not to the German nationality, German blood or even to "Aryan nordic race" and similar racist trash of Nazi ideology, and so its interpretation as a definition of "supremacist ideology" is quite exaggerative and utterly unjust, especially if you take in consideration historical background of the "Deutschenlied", which was written in the time, when Germany was fragmented to 35 monarchical states and four free cities loosely connected in so-called Deutscher Bund, where Habsburg Austria and Hohenzollern Prussia were each other struggling for domination but both together harshly persecuting any demonstration of will or desire for national unification. The "Deutschenlied" became unofficial anthem of revolutionary Germany after 1848 March revolution, which tried to establish democratic unified Germany but this attempt was defeated and surpressed by Prussia and Austria. When the Germany was unified under Prussian rule as the German Empire, it had a different anthem (Heil dir im Siegerkranz with the same melody as the God Save the King) and different flag (black-white-red horizontal tricolour). The "Deutschenlied" became the anthem of Germany during period of Wiemar republic, and then also the flag used during 1848-49 revolution was adopted too. When Nazies came to power in 1933, they replaced the black-red-gold flag with their own party flag, and they wanted to do that with the anthem as well, but to the "Deutschenlied"'s misfortune Hitler changed his mind and the Nazi party song "Die Fahne hoch" became just a co-anthem of the Third reich together with the unfortunate first stanza of "Deutschenlied". |
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| Jan-07-25 | | stone free or die: An interesting, and unexpected, digression from both the game and the player(s). I blame <Missy>. |
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| Jan-07-25 | | stone free or die: Or should that be credit?! |
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Jan-07-25
| | MissScarlett: < If a student gives a speech and strays from the point, Vinson insists that the other boys yell "Digression!" at him. The interruptions especially intimidated a shy, nervous student named Richard Kinsella, who was giving a speech about his father's farm in Vermont. Richard did digress, telling about his uncle who had polio. Kinsella was interesting and excited in his story, but the boys cut him off with shouts of "Digression!" and Vinson gave him a D+ in the course. Holden prefers digressions. He often finds them more worthwhile than the original topic and digresses frequently, to the reader's benefit, in his own story.> https://www.cliffsnotes.com/literat... |
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Jan-07-25
 | | perfidious: Who cares about Vuhmont? |
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Kibitzing
sac: 32...Qxg4+
