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| May-18-17 | | RKnight: I don't think there is a clear win for Black if White plays the simple 30 a3, instead of 30. Nxa4 as in the game. |
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| May-18-17 | | stst: In Safari (joke the name -- u know!) horses run, so..
29.......Nxe3 to harass Q, got fx, then Q pounds
30.fxN Qxe3+
31.Kh1 Bxd4 to pile on etc... to be finished (head-ache ... bed time...) |
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May-18-17
 | | al wazir: I don't understand why white played 29. Rxc6 instead of, e.g., 29. Qe1 with 30. Re1 to follow. |
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| May-18-17 | | Boomie: <RKnight: I don't think there is a clear win for Black if White plays the simple 30 a3, instead of 30. Nxa4 as in the game.> After 30. a3 Bxb2 31. Nxb2 Rb8
click for larger viewWhite has a bit of a back rank problem. |
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| May-18-17 | | Boomie: <al wazir: I don't understand why white played 29. Rxc6 instead of, e.g., 29. Qe1> 29. Qe1 Qxe1 30. Rxe1 Rb8 31. Re2 a4 32. a3 Rb3
click for larger viewPoor, overworked horsies. |
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May-18-17
| | al wazir: <Boomie>: Sorry, I meant 29. Qf1: If 29...Be4, then 30. Re1. After 29...Rb8 30. Rc2, if black plays 30...Rxb2, then 31. Rxb2 Bxd3 (31...Qxd3? 32. Qxd3 Bxd3 33. Rd2) 32. Rb3 seems to hold onto everything. |
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| May-18-17 | | Walter Glattke: Unlucky Piece constellation:
30.Qf3 Qd2!
30.Nf4 Bxb2 31.Nxd5 1 pawn  |
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| May-18-17 | | ChessHigherCat: The N sac seems like the obvious move but 26...Nxe3 27 Qe1/e2 and black can't move the pinned knight. If 27. Qe2, one solution is obviously Bxd3 attacking the Q, 28. Nxd3 Nf5! The same line seems to work with 27. Qe1. Time to look at the game. |
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| May-18-17 | | AlicesKnight: The break with ....Nxe3 and following was not too hard to see but perhaps it was surprising that White returned the piece with 30.Nxa4 so easily and then surrendered with 31.Qc1. |
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| May-18-17 | | Iwer Sonsch: 26...Nxe3 (forking Queen and Bishop) 27.fxe3 (27.Qf3 Nxg2 28.Qxg2 Bxd4 2P) Qxe3 and ...Bxd4 (3P vs N) looks good enough to not even require further Investigation. 28.Kh1 also allows 28...Be4. |
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| May-18-17 | | Iwer Sonsch: <ChessHigherCat> You're right about the trickiness of 27.Qe2(!), but Black's best response to that is actually 27...Bxd4! (-2.37 @depth 27) - and the Knight is immune due to the rook on c1 (28.fxe3? Qxe3+ 29.Qxe3 Bxe3+ and Bxc1). Black will follow up with Bg4 to apply even more pressure. Your line wins one pawn. |
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| May-18-17 | | Iwer Sonsch: White must have played the obvious 26.Nxc4 dxc4, interestingly enough followed by the not-so-obvious 27.Nc5! Bxb1 28.Qxb1 Be5! (-0.46 @depth 28) in order to get some counterplay on Black's pawns. |
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| May-18-17 | | thegoodanarchist: I got the first 3 moves. I still don't see why Black is winning, until White plays Qc1. My chess skills have atrophied. |
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| May-18-17 | | Walter Glattke: White can hold the game with 25.Nb6 Bf5
26.Rc1, otherwise play on "knight's mate" over terrible bishop threatenings,
then one horse will fall. |
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| May-18-17 | | stacase: 26...Ktxe3 wins two Pawns for the Knight and opens up the center of the board for Black's Queen and two Bishops to visit all sorts of nastiness on White's now disorganized band of not-so merry men. |
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| May-18-17 | | mel gibson: I didn't see this one -
the computer did but has a different following move:26. Rc1
Nxe3 (26. .. Nxe3 (♘c4xe3 ♕d1-e2 ♗g7xd4 ♖c1-e1 ♗f5-g4 ♗g2-f3 ♕e7-f6 ♗f3xg4
♘e3xg4 ♘b2-d1 ♕f6-d6 ♕e2-d2 c6-c5 ♕d2xa5 c5-c4 ♘d3-f4 ♗d4-c5 ♕a5-a4 h5-h4
♔g1-g2 ♔g8-g7 ♕a4-c2 ♖f8-h8 ♕c2-c3+ ♘g4-f6) +2.41/20 139) score for black +2.41 depth 20 |
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| May-18-17 | | morfishine: I like the demolition <26...Nxe3> 27.fxe3 Qxe3+ 28.Kh1 and now <28...Bxd4> netting a third pawn for the piece while ripping apart the White position ***** |
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| May-18-17 | | et1: Got it but 27 Qe2 is very interesting |
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| May-18-17 | | Walter Glattke: 27.Qe2 loses a pawn after 27.-Bxd3 28.Nxd3 Nf5 guards the queen or
28.Qd3 Nxg2 |
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| May-18-17 | | Iwer Sonsch: <Walter Glattke> |
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| May-18-17 | | patzer2: For today's Thursday puzzle solution, I visualized the game line 26...Nxe3 fxe3 Qxe3+ 28. Kh1 Bxd4 and figured with three pawns for the piece, I'd play this even in blitz. However, I also quickly visualized 29. Rxc6 and wasn't quite sure how to continue afterwards. Black's 29...a4 (-4.29 @ 32 depth, Stockfish 8) works out just fine, but slightly stronger according to the computers is the direct and forcing 29...Bxb2 30. Nxb2 Rb8 (-4.99 @ 32 depth, Stockfish 8) 
click for larger view with a decisive pin on the knight due to the threat of 31...Rb1 with a pin on the Queen. If White plays 31. Nd3 (diagram below),
click for larger viewthen 31...d4! (-4.41 @ 20 depth, Deep Fritz 15) with the strong threat of 32...Bxd3 is much better than 31...Bxd3? 32. Rc3 (diagram below) 
click for larger view32...Be2! 33. Rxe3 Bxd1  (-1.49 @ 23 depth, Deep Fritz 15) with drawing chances for White. |
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| May-18-17 | | saturn2: I stopped playing 5 Lg5. Black always got a good game. I switched to 5 cxd Nxd5 6 Bd2 like in Petrosian vs Fischer, 1970 |
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| May-18-17 | | Walter Glattke: Al wazir: 32.Rb3 does not hold: 32.-Bxf1
33.Rxd3 Bxg2+ 34.Kxg2 Bxe3 1 piece. |
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| May-18-17 | | patzer2: Black might have a deep, endgame winning option with 26...Nxb2 27.Nxb2 Qa3
to (diagram below)
click for larger view28.Qd2 Qxa2 to (-1.22 @ 35 depth, Stockfish 8) when play might continue 29.Nc4 Qxd2 30.Nxd2 Rc8 31.Rc5 a4 32.Ra5 Bc2 33.Rc5 Bd3 34.Bxd5 Bf8 35.Rc3 Bf5 36.Rxc6 Rxc6 37.Bxc6 a3 38.f3 Bb4 39.Nb3 Bd3 40.Bd5 a2 41.Kf2 Bc3 42.g4 hxg4 43.fxg4 g5 44.Na1 Bb1 45.Nb3 Kg7 46.Bc4 Bc2 47.Na1 Bxa1 48.Bxa2 Be4 49.h3 f5 50.Kg3 Bc3 51.gxf5 Bxf5 52.Bd5 Be1+ 53.Kg2 Bd2 54.h4 gxh4 55.Kf2 Kg6 56.Ba8 h3 57.Ke2 Bb4 58.Kf2 Kh5 59.Bh1 Kh4 60.Bf3 Bd7 61.Bd5 Bg4 62.Bh1 Bd6 63.d5 Bg3+ 64.Kf1 Be5 (Mate in 23 @ 52 depth, Stockfish 8) |
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May-18-17
 | | benveniste: <al wazir> ♕f1 gets met by ♗xb2, again leading to white being down at least a piece and a pawn. My computer prefers ♕f3, but Black still ends up at least two pawns. |
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sac: 26...Nxe3