| Jun-03-07 | | Ulhumbrus: Carlsen at the age of 16 drew six games with one of the strongest players in the world at the age of 24. What will Carlsen be like when he reaches his peak? Are we going to see another Bobby Fischer? |
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Jun-03-07
 | | Peligroso Patzer: To put this game in historical perspective for those who consult this page in the future, this was the second blitz playoff game (5 minutes with 10 second addition) played earlier today as the second stage of the tie-break after the four rapids (25 + 10) games ended level at 2.0 - 2.0. By winning this game, Aronian clinched the match by taking the blitz stage 2.0 to 0. |
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Jun-03-07
| | Peligroso Patzer: <Ulhumbrus: Carlsen at the age of 16 drew six games with one of the strongest players in the world at the age of 24.> Actually, Carlsen drew a total of four games. His score over the entire course of the match (regular, rapids and blitz) was +3 -5 =4. |
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| Jun-03-07 | | JohnBoy: What was more interesting to me was that Carlsen chose a pawn sac variation to try to generate some attacking prospects. The Saemisch is pretty much dead these days, but he tried hard to even the match. Aronian is one tough piece of work. Max Dlugy - What do you have to say here re the Saemisch? |
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| Jun-04-07 | | Marmot PFL: Hard to improve on black's play even with 2 hours to think. For white 12.e5 is the start of a dubious pawn sacrifice that Carlsen thought worth trying in blitz. In this situation it probably was as black had to find some very good moves to defend. |
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Jun-04-07
 | | offramp: Great sequence of moves - 33-38. |
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| Jun-04-07 | | Atking: Well Carlsen equalized the match in the normal format and the rapids. The last games are blitz. The result could be different if Carlsen has White for the first game. In this second game he was in position of a forced win and Aronian had "just" to wait for that. A better situation for him that if Carlsen with hypotically White in the first game was even draw. Of course Blitz are not as hazardous as dice (Agree that Aronian's experience was in this phase too very usefull. He cleverly kept a small pressure waiting for an unappropriate counter) but not as significant as the first phases of the match. Finally with a better experience (Few years on top for few months for Carlsen) and a better opening preparation Aronian was really a bit stronger (To say something like 51~52 to 49~48). Still Carlsen's progress are very impressive. What will be his strenght when Mexico will start? |
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| Jun-05-07 | | Ulhumbrus: Here is one explanation for Carlsen's loss in this game. Carlsen knew before the game that the Saemisch could be dangerous for Black in blitz games. However Aronian also knew that the Nimzoindian Saemisch couild be dangerous for Black in blitz games, and so Aronian even trained against this very opening variation against a computer in blitz games, because Aronian thought that Carlsen might try it. Thus Carlsen walked into Aronian's preparation. Carlsen tried an opening which Carlsen did not realise that Aronian had practised against. If all this is so, it suggests the following lesson: If you know that an opening variation is dangerous in blitz games, it is possible that your opponent also knows that it is dangerous in blitz games, and for this reason your opponent may have gained practice against it. This suggests that the right course in such a blitz game is not to play a different opening variation, but to to proceed exactly as in the normal games. Be that as it may, we can say is that Aronian showed his strength in this blitz game. |
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| Jun-05-07 | | Atking: More simply said <Ulhumbrus> Aronian has more experience as chess player than Carlsen. Fundamentally I agree with you: we must play what we think best even in blizt. But <as you noted> Carlsen simply tried to surprise his opponent. That didn't work. Black was better after 10 moves. Every thing was coming too late (somethink like a tempo down) for White. Carlsen will take this lesson. In fact he should have play already more prudently the first blitz. Na5?! was too tactic. Therefore in few months if he continues to progress like this, he will be up to 2750 Elo. So my point remains: it's a pity that he will not participate at Mexico. I agree that we can said the same thing for 2~3 others players in the world. |
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| Sep-05-07 | | kingsindian2006: what if 33.RxF5 .. any info on this variation or analyzing further? thanks |
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| Sep-25-08 | | Ramjet: the co ordination of k nights is beautiful |
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| Mar-11-10 | | somitra: <Atking>'s prophecy :<Therefore in few months if he continues to progress like this, he will be up to 2750 Elo.> Few years from that time and he is already 2810+ and number 1. |
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| Nov-25-11 | | frogbert: wrongly classified, correct is blitz. |
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