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| Mar-06-07 | | nikolajewitsch: Isn't black's resignation premature? What is a winning line for white? |
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Mar-06-07
 | | keypusher: <nikolajewitsch> No, I don't think resignation is premature. White can walk his king to e4. If Black stops this by playing ...f5, then Bd3 wins the pawn. Or if Black tries to stop White's king with his own king, by, say 35...Ke7 36. Kg2 Kf6 37. Kf3 Kf5, then 38. Bd3+ drives the Black king back. If the White king is at e4 and the Black king is at d6, then White can simply move the bishop back and forth until Black runs out of pawn moves. Then he has to retreat his king and Kd5 wins for White. |
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| Mar-06-07 | | WickedPawn: White's plan is to bring his King to either f6 or c6 and I think Black can't prevent both threats at the same time. |
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| Mar-06-07 | | Billy Ray Valentine: So how does chessgames.com decide which games it will cover live? It seems like there is surprisingly little kibitzing for this game. |
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| Mar-06-07 | | Billy Ray Valentine: Well it looks like Carlsen has two blacks and one white for the remaining three games. Anand has two whites and one black. I would imagine it will be difficult for Carlsen to gain one half point on Anand. Still, a second place finish would be very impressive for Carlsen at this point... I think he's surpassed expectations of him so far. |
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Mar-06-07
 | | WannaBe: <Billy Ray Valentine> The initial game, is who is the top rated player, then we play follow the leader. So when Carlsen had the lead, we got his game, now Anand have the lead, we follow his game. If the first game ends early, CG may choose a game that shows the most interesting position. Or, if there's only 1 game left, then that's what we get. =) |
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Mar-06-07
 | | ganso: Was 22 ... h6 a horrible blunder, or was Black already in deep trouble? Seems that after Carlsen replies Qc1 Black loses by force. Hard to believe this win was against a 2750 super GM. |
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| Mar-06-07 | | KamikazeAttack: Poor game by Chucky. Nothing Super-grandmaster-like about his play here. |
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| Mar-06-07 | | Billy Ray Valentine: <ganso: Was 22 ... h6 a horrible blunder, or was Black already in deep trouble? Seems that after Carlsen replies Qc1 Black loses by force. Hard to believe this win was against a 2750 super GM.> I think black was already in deep trouble. I can't find an immediate win, but I don't see how black can survive the attack on his king. |
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| Mar-06-07 | | jahhaj: <qasno> Black is already in deep trouble, most obvious threat is 23.Bxg7 Kxg7 24.h6+ Kf8 25.Qf6 winning h pawn and game. If Black tries to avoid this with 22...Bf8 white sacs on g6 with 23.hxg6 fxg6 24.Bxg6 hxg6 25.Qxg6+ Bg7 26.Bxg7 Qxg7 27.Qe8+ winning back the sacced piece and winning the game. |
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| Mar-06-07 | | Knight13: Very, very disappointing, for Ivanchuk. I first thought he's gonna kick Carlsen off the plane but didn't. I guess when he tried, Carlsen tripped him and he fell down instead. :( |
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| Mar-06-07 | | Ashram64: looks like the loss to anand wakes up the sleeping giant again :) |
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| Mar-06-07 | | k0mi: <Knight13>: not exactly. did you watch the game? it's beautiful. nice and deserved win by Carlsen! |
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| Mar-06-07 | | Knight13: <k0mi> I never said it's not a deserved win by Carlsen. I just said it's dissappointing... |
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| Mar-06-07 | | csmath: 1. This is a poor choice of opening against Carlsen, it allows white initiative while black has problems developing pieces on the queenside. This is NOT TO PLAY AGAINST A TACTICAL PLAYER since it is very likely a tactical player of this talent will sieze the opportunity. 2. Carlsen shows aggressiveness that charatcerizes him which means he got his selfconfidence back after four rounds of "chicken chess." That is great because kid has a tremendeous talent. 3. Chucky's "enterprising encyclopedic" style is somewhat vulnerable since even though he plays all sorts of things, sometimes his opponents know the openings better than Chucky. This is the case here. Excellent game by Magnus.
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| Mar-06-07 | | csmath: It also shows how well prepared Magnus is these days. It is amazing how clear understanding he has both of this opening, which he apparently knows very well, and of the middlegame it arises to.
Chucky was truly schooled here by the kid. :-)
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| Mar-06-07 | | cirbals: i think the best move here is 24.Bb1!! followed by 25.Qc2 :).. somebody think bout it? |
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| Mar-06-07 | | Ulhumbrus: Instead of 22..h6, 22..Bxf6 23 exf6 Qd6 attacks d4 and gains access to f8.22...h6 enables White to play Qc1 with tempo, as White then threatens both the N on c6 and the pawn on g6 |
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| Mar-06-07 | | Whitehat1963: Why not 11...c4, 12. Bc2 b5 and try to cutoff the bishop from the action for a while? |
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| Mar-06-07 | | JohnBoy: <Ulhumbrus> - doesn't 22...Bxh6 23.ef6 Qd6 24.hg6 *g6 25.Bxg6 just win outright? |
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| Mar-06-07 | | dehanne: Where did black go wrong? It seems this game was lost in the opening already. Is 10..Na5 common? And is there anything wrong with 20..f6? |
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Mar-06-07
 | | tamar: As Larry Evans would say, it's a detective story.
I thought Ivanchuk was going to play 15...Nc6 and bring the knight back into play immediately, as Eljanov did in the 2004 Olympiad they played on together. J Stocek vs Eljanov, 2004 15...Qe7 gives White all the play he gets with 15...Qxh4 while not even winning a pawn, so that gets my vote as
where he went wrong. |
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| Mar-06-07 | | dehanne: After 15..Qxh4, doesnt black lose the queen after 16.Bg5? After 16...Qh5 17.Ng3 and if instead, 16...Qg4 17.f3 first. |
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| Mar-06-07 | | djmercury: Qc7 and Nc6 were poor moves, totally understimating white kingside treath.
At least till move 17 the game was following known theory. |
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| Mar-06-07 | | ChessMan94: Look at the statistics for this opening:
Overall record:
White wins 36.3%
Black wins 22.4%
Draws 41.3%
Apparently it should be avoided by Black! |
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