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Aug-29-06 | | Ulhumbrus: After 29 Bb3 Carlsen has the bishop pair but also a weak e pawn. Belyavsky will attack the e4 pawn and keep White's KB out of d5 by ...c6. while Carlsen does not control the f file so as to play Rf7 supported by the B on b3. |
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Aug-29-06 | | Ulhumbrus: Instead of 35 Qd3, 35 Bf3 prevents the invasion ...Rf2 after which Carlsen may end up with the advantage. |
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Aug-29-06 | | Ulhumbrus: Not really a convincing win, as 35 Qd3? passed an advantage, which White might have ended up with, after 35 Bf3, to Beliavsky. So this game cannot really be said to tell us how to play the Black side. |
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Aug-29-06 | | Xaurus: It seemed during the live video-feed that Carlsen hadn't though of 31...Qg4 at all, after he put his head to the table and just seemed to think "Oh no, that I didn't see coming". |
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Aug-29-06 | | percyblakeney: 35. Bf3 is better than Qd3, but one problem with the move is that 35. ... Nxe4 can't be followed by Bxe4 because of Rf1+, so 36. Rad1 ought to be the best move for white after 35. Bf3 Nxe4. Carlsen would have been pawn down with some drawing chances since Beliavsky was in time trouble, but with a far from comfortable position. |
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Aug-29-06 | | percyblakeney: After playing 31. Kh1 Carlsen must have expected Rf2, and it looks unpleasant enough for white when there is a move like Be3 available instead of Kh1... Carlsen played a bit too fast, he had lots of time left but moved much quicker than necessary on the 31st and 35th. |
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Aug-29-06
 | | Honza Cervenka: <Not really a convincing win, as 35 Qd3? passed an advantage, which White might have ended up with, after 35 Bf3> I disagree. White Pe4 is lost whatever white would play in move 35. He can hope in draw still but black's win would be quite probable outcome there. Btw, Beliavsky's 35...Rf2 was not the best move too. 35...Nxe4!! (threatening Nf2+) with idea 36.Rxe4 Rd8 37.Qe2 (35.Qc4 b5 36.Qe2 would not be different) 37...Rd2!! could have been a splendid final of this game. click for larger viewOf course, the Queen cannot take the Rook for mate on f1, 38.Qe1 allows another mate on g2 and after 38.Rxe5 Rxe2 white has to prevent the threat of mate on weak back rank at first.:-) |
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Aug-29-06
 | | Honza Cervenka: <On 35 Bf3 Nxe4 36 g3 both Black's R on f4 and N on e4 are threatened with capture.> Unfortunately for white black can refute this possibility with brutal 36...Nxg3+ 37.hxg3 Qxg3 threatening 38...Rh4#. |
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Aug-29-06 | | Ulhumbrus: <percyblakeney: 35. Bf3 is better than Qd3, but one problem with the move is that 35. ... Nxe4 can't be followed by Bxe4 because of Rf1+> Because of this and other things eg the fact that on 31...Qg4!! White can't accept the N, one has to look earlier for alternatives for White. One alternative is 30 h3 keeping Black's Q out of g4 as well as clearing h2 as a flight square, after which White may end up with the advantage if Black can't find something else. A masterly performance on Belyavsky's part. |
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Aug-29-06 | | Dionyseus: What about the line Rybka 2.1c suggested? <35.Be2 h6 36.Rad1 Nxe4 37.Bf3 Nf6 38.Qb6 Re7 39.Qd8+ and thinks white is down by about 4/10 of a pawn> |
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Aug-29-06 | | jmi: <CRWynn: I think you should take another look at that mate. But obviously White is toast.> Oops. Thanks for pointing it out. ;) It should have read 57. .... ♘g5+ 58. ♔h4 ♕f2+ 59. g3 ♕h2+ 60. ♗h3 ♕xh3# Depending on where the White ♕ moves, Black can choose between 57. .... ♘g5+ 58. ♔h4 ♘xe4 threatening ♕g3# or ♕h2+ 59. ♗h3 g5+ 60. ♔g4 ♕f4#. |
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Aug-30-06
 | | Honza Cervenka: <Dionyseus> What is wrong with 38...e4 instead of 38...Re7 in above mentioned Rybka's line?  click for larger viewFor example, after 39. Rd8 exf3 40. Rdxe8+ Nxe8 41. Rxe8+ Kg7 42. gxf3 Qd5 43. Qxb7+ Rf7 44. Qxa6 Qxf3+ 45. Kg1 Qd1+ 46. Kg2 Qd5+ 47. Kg1 Qg5+ 48. Kh1 Qc1+ 49. Kg2 Qxb2+ 50. Qe2 Qxc3 leads to an endgame K+R+Q with extra Pawn for black.  click for larger viewI know, it is not clear win for black yet but practical chances are fine. Am I missing something? |
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Aug-30-06 | | fevered cheek: it seems like carlsen tries to get into 'unfamiliar' territory as soon as possible so as to confuse and complicate the position. this is a true sign of his genius, that is when you take out all the opening theory and your left with calculation, calculation, calculation, and you destroy your oppents. obviously this game isn't a good example, but overall this method seems to be working for him. |
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Aug-30-06 | | slomarko: if trying to get into an unfamiliar territory as soon as possible to confuse and complicate the position is a sign of genius then i might be a genius too. |
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Aug-30-06 | | fevered cheek: you fool, im saying he does better than his opponents in unclear positions, meaning his genuine calculation ability is superb. |
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Aug-30-06 | | slomarko: you wrote: <it seems like carlsen tries to get into 'unfamiliar' territory as soon as possible so as to confuse and complicate the position. this is a true sign of his genius>. going into 'unfamiliar' territory per se is hardly a sign of genius.
now u r saying that he does better his opponents in unclear positions. thats ok but you didnt write that in previous post. i'm also asking you to not call me a fool again. tnx. |
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Sep-07-06 | | Dionyseus: <Honza Cervenka> It's a theoretical draw. The A and C pawns will be gone, and black's extra G pawn won't be enough to win. |
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Nov-23-13 | | Eduardo Bermudez: Only Keres, Korchnoi and Beliavsky won against nine world chess champions ! |
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Dec-16-13 | | Eduardo Bermudez: Keres, Korchnoi and Beliavsky won against nine world chess champions ! |
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Sep-10-22
 | | OhioChessFan: Funny pun. |
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Sep-10-22 | | thegoodanarchist: <OhioChessFan: Funny pun.> So let's have some punny fun. |
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Sep-10-22
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Congratulations, <tonsillolith> for an excellent pun. Anyone else notice that Black had a big lead in development as late as move 31? |
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Sep-10-22
 | | HeMateMe: Terrific pun! Did beliavsky actually have a long enough career to play nine world champions? It didn't seem like he was active all that long. |
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Sep-10-22
 | | HeMateMe: Mags was 16 here, probably already a better player than beliavsky, but not this day. |
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Sep-11-22
 | | Check It Out: Excellent pun. |
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