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Aug-09-21 | | drollere: <It is not too often that I completely miss a Monday puzzle.> it's very often that posters succumb to the delusion that the POTD positions are "graded in difficulty" from monday to sunday each week. the puzzle is the puzzle; you solve it or you don't. the day of the week has absolutely nothing to do with it. |
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Aug-09-21 | | Dionysius1: So what's the "Easy"..."Insane" annotation about then? Blimey, <drollere>, if that's your dry humour, remember humour is very hit and miss on digital chats, dry humour most of all :-) |
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Aug-09-21 | | Damenlaeuferbauer: The Russian-born, but now Israeli GM Michael Roiz could have forced a mate in 2 moves with the very nice queen sacrifice 37.Qe7+!,Nxe7 38.Bg7#. My compatriot, the 2nd world champion Dr Emanuel Lasker (1868 - 1941), once said: "When you see a good move, wait - look for a better one." BTW, Michael Roiz wrote a very good book about the Nimzo-Indian. |
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Aug-09-21 | | mel gibson: It's a mate in 5 so not that easy. |
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Aug-09-21
 | | Willber G: <mel gibson: It's a mate in 5 so not that easy.> Mate in two. |
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Aug-09-21 | | ndg2: Lol,my first thought was " white will win black's queen" (which isn't true because she's protected by the rook), but it's mate, actually. |
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Aug-09-21 | | mel gibson: <Aug-09-21
Premium Chessgames Member Willber G: <mel gibson: It's a mate in 5 so not that easy.>Mate in two.>
not if 37... Ke5 |
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Aug-09-21
 | | chrisowen: The French Inhaler wait wait ok :) |
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Aug-09-21
 | | Steve Holloway: I first saw Qe7, Nx, Bg7# |
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Aug-09-21
 | | Willber G: <mel gibson: Willber G: Mate in two.> not if 37... Ke5>
37.Qe7+ Nxe7 38.Bg7# |
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Aug-09-21 | | jamesrocklyn: Looking for someone else noticing RxB, PxR (either one) followed by Qe7 is also mate? |
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Aug-09-21 | | TheaN: Why are so many struggling with a mate in two Monday queen sac? Finally we get one and people are still complaining :>. Have we been conditioned so much that we're not used to it anymore? I saw <37.Qxe7+ Nxe7 38.Bg7#> instantly and I actually think it's aesthetically the better option, let alone 37.Bxe7+ Ke5 being #4 instead of #1. |
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Aug-09-21
 | | Willber G: <jamesrocklyn: Looking for someone else noticing RxB, PxR (either one) followed by Qe7 is also mate?> I presume you mean RxN.
Black can play KxR instead of PxR. |
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Aug-09-21 | | AlicesKnight: Found the Qe7+ version, leaving a nice 2-bishop cross-over. |
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Aug-09-21 | | johnnydeep: WAY too tricky for a Monday. At least for me. I spent a good deal of time seeing no winning line, and only after stepping away for a few hours and returning, did the best move dawn on me. But even then, I could only truly confirm it by moving the pieces in the interface since I couldn't see it clearly enough in my mind's eye alone. Oh we, I'm still glad I got it! |
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Aug-09-21 | | johnnydeep: Oh, and I missed the queen sac as well, dismissing it early on as going nowhere, just to add insult to injury :-) |
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Aug-09-21
 | | raymondhow: Solved it pretty quickly with Qe7+, but it's a minor jolt to push the button and see a different move, and think for a second that I missed a Monday. |
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Aug-09-21 | | saturn2: 37...Nxe7 was helpmate. |
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Aug-09-21
 | | chrisowen: No shaved ar Be7 no? |
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Aug-09-21
 | | Peligroso Patzer: Given that it's a Monday, and since queen sacs always have a special aesthetic appeal (whatever day of the week it may be), obviously, the <correct> solution is 37. Qe7+ Nxe7 38. Bg7# ... so no credit for Roiz on this puzzle. |
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Aug-09-21 | | mel gibson: <Aug-09-21
Premium Chessgames Member Willber G: <mel gibson: Willber G: Mate in two.>not if 37... Ke5
37.Qe7+ Nxe7 38.Bg7#>
Yes but in this game White played
37 Be7+
that means a mate in 5. |
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Aug-09-21
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37.Qe7+ Nxe7 38.Bg7#>
Yes but in this game White played
37 Be7+
that means a mate in 5.>
The game line isn't always the best move, as in this case. The puzzle starting position is given before move 37 and mate in two from there starting with Qe7+ is the best solution. It's called P(uzzle)OTD, not C(ontinuation)OTD. ;-) |
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Aug-09-21 | | mel gibson: <Aug-09-21
Premium Chessgames Member Willber G: <mel gibson: <Aug-09-21 Premium Chessgames Member Willber G: <mel gibson: Willber G: Mate in two.>not if 37... Ke5
37.Qe7+ Nxe7 38.Bg7#>
Yes but in this game White played
37 Be7+
that means a mate in 5.>
The game line isn't always the best move, as in this case. The puzzle starting position is given before move 37 and mate in two from there starting with Qe7+ is the best solution. It's called P(uzzle)OTD, not C(ontinuation)OTD. ;-)> Agreed -
and the best move is a mate in 2. |
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Aug-09-21
 | | Willber G: Correct. |
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Aug-10-21
 | | steinitzfan: Regarding the 2-move mate - there's a lot packed in those two moves. When Black takes the queen he opens the g-file and obstructs a critical retreat square. The actual mating move is pretty complicated as well. |
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