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Hydra (Computer) vs Michael Adams
"Slipped a Mickey" (game of the day Apr-14-2007)
Adams - Hydra Match (2005), London ENG, rd 3, Jun-23
Spanish Game: Closed. Bogoljubow Variation (C91)  ·  1-0

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Aug-08-05  Averageguy: Previous games have showed how Hydra can play better than most machines strategically, but in this game at the end it shows its tactical ability.
Dec-01-05  lopium: I think chess is maybe an art. Well I think this is a game, such as life and to eat.
Dec-27-05  THE pawn: For those interested in ''lesser'' program analysis:

Chessmaster 9k finds 26.Ra6!! in 6 seconds and in 10 seconds the whole combination has been established.

Chessmaster 7k finds 26.Ra6!! in 9 seconds and in 21 seconds, the whole combination has been established.

Surprisingly, Chessgenius finds it in about 4 seconds but can't exactly make a good follow-up of it.

So it's funny because it's really not an easy move to see for humans, but computers, even old ones find it like it's a joke. I wonder how much time Hydra needed to find the move, because I remember Hydra took a lot of time to play the move. That must have been because he wanted to find a hidden super move.

Mar-09-06  comcicomca3: I believe the d5 pawn is just dead, as any attempts to protect it result in further loss. Ra6 is the fastest route to winning it, and I think any reasonably good human player can find the move.

Mar-12-06  DhavalVyas: Although the computer's play is quite impressive, I think that against a strong positional player like Kramink, the computer might experience some problems. I think it is still several years aways until we can conclusively say that computers are in a league of their own.
Apr-27-06
Premium Chessgames Member
  oao2102: This position after white's 26th move reminds me of a game played by Ray Keene. Does anyone know the one? Much obliged
Apr-27-06
Premium Chessgames Member
  oao2102: I was referring to Keene vs. Kovacevic 1973...I see similarities but this may be my imagination
Apr-14-07  arctic tern: Poor Michael Adams... This is the second time he's 'slipped a mickey' in the GOTD

Adams vs Kasparov, 2005

Apr-14-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  tpstar: Alternate puns:

Mike and the Mechanics
Adams' Rib
DeHydrated
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hydra
You Can Run But You Can't Hydra

Apr-14-07  nimzo knight: whats the ending!
Apr-14-07
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  xenophon: more like taking the mickey
Apr-14-07  PAWNTOEFOUR: shredder classic found Ra6 in a heartbeat,then changed it for two levels and then came back to it...it had no problem finding the text continuation...but after Ra6 Qb7 2.Rd6 Be7 3.Bxh6 gxh6 4.Qf3...it spent 30 minutes on Ne8...well this got my curiousity up and i continued,and after 5.Nxh6+ kh7 6.Nf5 Bxd6 7.Qh5+ Kg8 8.Qg5+ Kh7 9.Qh6+ Kg8..i guess you guys can figure out the rest...adams did the best thing
Apr-14-07  PAWNTOEFOUR: lol@ you can run but you can't hydra!
Apr-14-07  Manic: Out of the other puns, I reckon DeHydrated was the best.
Apr-14-07
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  playground player: Have we done well by bringing computers into chess?

I studied art history in college. One day I was helping the professor clean out his storage space, and I came upon some twisted pieces of fiberglas junk. "Should I take these out to the dumpster?" I asked. He reacted with horror: "Oh, no, no! Those are my exhibition at the so-and-so gallery in New York next week!" "You gotta be kidding." "Not kidding at all--this is the kind of crap they want to see."

Now this man was an excellent painter, and a keen historian of art; and he was producing junk because it paid well. You see this kind of crap in doctors' offices, public buildings, and corporate offices everywhere--purchased by ignoramuses because they have no idea what "art" is, but they like to brag about how much they pay for it.

No one can define "art" in a way that satisfies everyone. But as far as the "art" in chess goes, there is no way today's product can compare "artistically" to what Morphy and Anderssen and Steinitz were producing back in the 19th century. And I think our current fixation with computers is in some measure responsible for that.

Apr-14-07  Mendrys: Yes, indeed if the purpose of chess is to create beautiful, artistic positions and combinations then perhaps it has lost some of it's luster. However, if it were possible for Morphy to play a game with a modern GM (and get crushed 10 times in a row.) I don't think he would see his chess as being superior or in any way better.
Apr-14-07
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  keypusher: I don't understand. Hydra played a beautiful game. If you had asked me to guess the identity of the White player I would never have suspected a computer. If there is <art> in chess, this is it!

<But as far as the "art" in chess goes, there is no way today's product can compare "artistically" to what Morphy and Anderssen and Steinitz were producing back in the 19th century.>

I couldn't disagree more. There is no 19th century game that compares artistically to the best games today.

Apr-14-07  gambitfan: GOD Sa 14/04/2007
Game of the Day!
Apr-14-07  siu02jm: possible continuations:

28. Bxh6 gxh6 29. Nxh6+ Kh7 30. Rxf6 Bxf6 31. Qh5 d4 32. Ng4+ Kg8 33. Nxf6+ Kg7 34. Qg5+ Kh8 35. Qh6#
White mates 1-0

or

28. Bxh6 gxh6 29. Nxh6+ Kh7 30. Rxf6 Bxf6 31. Qh5 Rc6 32. Nf5+ Kg8 33. Qg4+ Kh7 34. Re3 (zwagzwang?)

Apr-14-07  siu02jm: <playground player:> i don't believe that professor meant what he said.
Apr-14-07  Troglodyte: I don't think the art in chess is a certain style, it's the pure struggle between two human beings. When the players give it everything they have to win the art reaches its highest form, no matter how they try to do it (style or strategy).

There's no art in playing against a machine.

Apr-14-07  ztnepres: what if black did 26... Ne4?
Apr-14-07  Chessmensch: - Hydramatic vs. stick shift.
- Hydrazine (rocket fuel).
Apr-14-07  MostlyAverageJoe: <ztnepres: what if black did 26... Ne4?>

27.Qg4 threatens mate, after any response
28. Nxh6+ wins the black queen

Apr-14-07  CapablancaRuyLopez: Sorry but whats "Slipped a Mickey" mean??
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