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Jul-06-05 | | shinesaza: Early f5 can be dangerous :) |
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Jul-30-05 | | cracky90: Apparently this is the game that inspired Reti playing Euwe in their match in the 20s at Amsterdam. Reti won twice in 19 and 22 moves with the double rook sacrifice against Euwe. |
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Jul-30-05
 | | Chessical: <15.Be6+> Kc6 16.Qe8+ Nd7 17.Bxd7+ Kb6 18.Nd5+ Ka6 19.Bb5 is mate as well. |
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Jul-30-05
 | | Honza Cervenka: It seems to be a predecessor of much more famous Adolf Anderssen vs Kieseritzky, 1851 |
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Sep-15-09
 | | Phony Benoni: Kieseritzky never seemed to learn. Apparently, Lionel was not wall trained. |
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Mar-20-11
 | | Phony Benoni: I never have figured out if Bagration was really part of Kieseritsky's name, or just the expression he used after losing to another double rook sacrifice. "Well, Bagration!" I am grateful for it, however, as it makes his name easy to search. Who can remember how to spell Kieseritsky? Tried this out on the old Bozo 0.5 engine, and it gives a mate in five starting with 14.Qxb7. Kieseritsky would have found that move, if only because it threatens to Bagration a rook. |
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Mar-20-11 | | picard: My lord, how many names can one man have? |
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Mar-20-11 | | picard: how about for black 12 ... Qb6. I think black can escape with material equality but of course his position will be completely wrecked. Thats as late as the game can possibly be saved. Once that first white rook is taken its over for black. |
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Mar-20-11 | | rilkefan: Why not 8....Qxd5, trying to trade down and survive to an endgame up a pawn? |
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Mar-20-11
 | | WannaBe: You never seen the name of the female chess player (I can't recall the name) and she was married 7 or is it 8 times, and kept all the names... I am sure someone here at CG will know what's her name. =) |
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Mar-20-11
 | | Sneaky: <WannaBe> Dr. Jana Malypetrova Hartston Miles Bellin |
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Mar-20-11
 | | Sneaky: This game is so very much like the Immortal Game it seems like analysis. |
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Mar-20-11 | | redmaninaustin: I think Kieseritky wore himself out writing his full name on the scorecard - this could explain the defeat. |
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Mar-20-11
 | | al wazir: On move 19 white could have made played Nb4, Nb6, Nc3, Nc7, Ne3, or Nxe7 instead of Nf6, and the result would still have been the same. It's too bad that f4 was unavailable. |
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Mar-20-11 | | roastedrook: I don't know if Schwartz was blind or some thing but here's a mate in three: 14.Bb5+ Nd7 15.Bxd7+Kd8 16.Ne6# |
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Mar-20-11
 | | Phony Benoni: <roastedrook> After <14.Bb5+>: click for larger viewBlack can escape the immediate mate by <14...Nc6>. In fact, does White even win then? |
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Mar-20-11
 | | Phony Benoni: <rilkefan> After <8...Qxd5>:
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White can just get the pawn back by 9.Qxd5 cxd5 10.Nf4, and looks to have a good game afterward. However, this being 1842, he would probably play something like 9.Qc3 and keep the Nf4 move in reserve. |
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Mar-20-11
 | | HeMateMe: The "Lionel" portion of his name triggers the pun "Easy like Sunday Morning", one of Lionel Ritchie's fine songs. [Lionel_____________Kieseritsky].
Most creative, by these folks! |
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Mar-20-11 | | weary willy: <WannaBe: You never seen the name of the female chess player (I can't recall the name) and she was married 7 or is it 8 times, and kept all the names...
I am sure someone here at CG will know what's her name. =) - Sneaky: <WannaBe> Dr. Jana Malypetrova Hartston Miles Bellin> Only she didn't keep all the names, of course. It's just CG's (helpful) way of enabling us to track a single person who played under different names, thanks to our idea that a woman should take her husband's surname on marriage. We don't find a similar requirement when a male player teams up with different females (in series or in parallel) because men made up the surname rules and found it easier to keep their original name. |
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Mar-20-11 | | Llawdogg: Phony Benoni: Excellent analysis of the Bagration. That always tickles my funny bone too. But what do you make of Adalbert? |
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Mar-20-11
 | | scormus: Another great, multi-pun. I think we should all be grateful to Mr Kieseritsky for the memorable
brilliancies played to beat him. This is a beauty. Lovely 2R-sac - I guess it is sound all the way through |
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Mar-20-11 | | mucher1: Another road to victory seems to be 14.Ne6 (Nd7 15.Bb5). |
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Mar-20-11
 | | FSR: Kieseritzky was actually a strong player - not that you would ever guess that from this game. Anderssen only scored +7=2-6 against him. http://tinyurl.com/49vk92y That included, most famously, the Immortal Game - which was only an offhand game at London 1851, played during the Great Tournament. Soltis wrote about how no one could lose with as much panache as Kieseritzky - when he lost, he didn't just get ground down in inferior endings; no, his opponents won coruscating brilliancies where they sacked every piece in sight. |
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Mar-20-11
 | | FSR: Here's a nice endgame crush by the K-Man: Anderssen vs Kieseritzky, 1851 |
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Mar-20-11
 | | FSR: In J Schulten vs Kieseritzky, 1844, K mated White off the board with the same ridiculous gambit later played, less successfully, by K in the Immortal Game and in Short vs Kasparov, 1993 (though ChessGames' database actually shows Black scoring extremely well with it). |
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