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Sep-27-07 | | NotABanker: Nice game by white... he didnt even castle his king or get his rooks out. |
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Sep-27-07 | | xrt999: I was looking at 14.Bh6 for white |
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Sep-27-07 | | zb2cr: Saw that the key move was to be Nf6 as a sacrifice. But the Black Bishop on e7 was troublesome, as was the Black Knight on d5. A-ha! 14. Nxe7 eliminates both difficulties, the Bishop directly and the Knight by diverting it to take the White Knight. From there, the line flowed easily.
My time to find it was round a minute, so I could have found this in OTB. Now, if only my opponents would be so considerate as Winkelman was and make such errors... |
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Sep-27-07 | | znprdx: Very instructive, even delightful! Once again comes the challenge of finding the correct move order - because at 7 ply - I'm certain we most likely may have thought Bxf6 suffices, and consider also that the dynamics might have been altered by not capturing the bishop... The combinational concepts are relatively simple - but the sequence is everything and visualizing it the art of grasping all the elements of the changing position. In effect this becomes a problem within a problem - like in life - I wonder if Kasparov will touch on this line of thought in his upcoming book :) Perhaps even at the highest levels of competition when the choice tree suddenly seems to paradoxically expand rather than contract, opting for a draw can in fact be honorable in the face of increasing risk. A case in point is surely the recent Kramnik-Anand game from Round 10 of the World Championship tourney in Mexico. (ps<MAJ> any recent conclusive analysis after 41....Kb4: I found the startling 42.Qg6) |
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Sep-27-07 | | goodevans: Well I thought that was all rather easy for a Thursday. Surprised that others found it harder. But I guess that when the first move you consider works out then it will seem easy! |
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Sep-27-07 | | marteinn: The line I saw was 14. Bxe7 Nxe7 15. Nf6+ gxf6 16. Nxe7+ Qxe7 17. Qg3+ Kh8 18 Qh4 and the only move to avoid mate is f5 loosing the queen. |
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Sep-27-07 | | Marmot PFL: Rather long combination for Thurs. but mostly forced and not a lot of alternatives to calculate. Black makes it easier but either not developing several pieces or moving one he already developed away from the king, which my opponents seldom seem to do. |
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Sep-27-07 | | TrueBlue: as usual, I got the much more difficult solution:
14.Bxe7 Nxe7 15. Nf6+ gxf6 16. Nxe7+ Qxe7 17. Qg4+ Kh8 18. Qh4 |
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Sep-27-07 | | TrueBlue: right on marteinn, we have almost the same line :) |
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Sep-27-07 | | skemup: I found it step by step but it took me a while. Im very happy becouse i don't remember when i solved thursday puzzle:) |
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Sep-27-07 | | Topista: 1.nXe7+ nxe7 2.nf6+!!gxf6
3.bxh7+!! kxh7(kg7/h8 4.qxf6+! kxh7
5.qh6+ kg8 6.bf6 ng6/f5 7.qg7/h8 mate)
4.qh5+ kg8 5.bxf6 ng6 6.qh6
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Sep-27-07 | | Topista: it would be nice if it started with move 13.ne4! |
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Sep-27-07 | | NguyenVo: A very pretty combination. |
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Sep-27-07 | | bogo78: Quite a few of us were wondering if 16.Bxh7 was necessary or perhaps 16.Bxf6 would do. When i 'solved' the puzzle i overlooked the simple defense to the later alternative. Namely black has ...Nbd5 and the attack will be stopped. |
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Sep-27-07 | | MostlyAverageJoe: <TrueBlue> & <marteinn> Your lines depend on black's blunder. After 14. Bxe7, black's best response is 14... c4 Not that it saves the black, but c4 makes it a bit more difficult for white who now has 2 pieces en prise. |
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Sep-27-07 | | whiteshark: Found that pretty soon. Exchanging+sacrifying ♘♘♗ to weaken black's position to such an extent that ♕+♗# is unavoidable. |
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Sep-27-07 | | Crowaholic: <MostlyAverageJoe: or could run 14...Kh8 and lose slowly, being a piece down and subject to a nasty attack after 15.Nxf6 Nxf6 16. Bxf6> I suppose you mean 15. Nf6, but anyway, 15. Nd6 looks much stronger to me. If Black doesn't exchange Q for N now, then 15. ..Qd7 16. Nxf7+ (16. Qxf7!? Qxe7) Rxf7 17. Qxf7 Qxe7 (17. ..Bb7? 18. Bh6!) 18. Bxe7 Nxe7 19. Qxe7 Bd7 20. Qd6! looks more than just crushing. |
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Sep-27-07 | | YouRang: Yee haw! Got the whole thing. Not that hard really, all of the moves were hanging there like ripe apples. It was just a matter of picking them in the right order so that: (1) the moves are forcing and (2) we end up with a badly exposed king under deadly assault. In a position like this, nothing is quite as deadly as a Q+B attack with the bishop at f5 and the queen at h6. |
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Sep-27-07 | | Grampmaster: I played 16. Bxf6 instead of Bxh7.
Maybe someone with a search engine can prove that 16. Bxf6 doesn't win for white. In playing it over in my head that was the line I was calculating. |
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Sep-27-07 | | twin phoenix: <venk98> 16. Bxf6? does not work. i had planned on continuing in such a manner also. alas i thought i had found the correct combination but missed entirely that 16. Bxh7+! was necessary.(so no i don't get credit.) if 16. Bxf6,N-g6 followed by 17.Q-h5,N-d5 saves black. we were so close and yet so far away... |
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Sep-27-07 | | HFlew: Cool, I got the whole line :)
I like it when Bxh7+ works, wish it would in my games! |
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Sep-27-07 | | kevin86: I missed this one-because I missed the first diversion via Ne7+. Shame,shame,shame,everybone knows my name-lol |
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Sep-27-07 | | YouRang: <Grampmaster: I played 16. Bxf6 instead of Bxh7. > The purpose of 16. Bxh7+ is (1) to eliminate the last pawn defending the black king, and (2) allow the queen to join the attack with tempo (that is, with check), which deprives black time to defend. If 16. Bxf6, then 16...Ng6 seems to gum things up for white. White might try 17. Qh5 (threatening Qh6 - Qg7#), but 17...Nd5! kills this threat by threatening to take out the bishop. |
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Sep-27-07 | | TrueBlue: MAJ, allow me to disagree. 14 Bxe7 f5
15. Nxf8 and white is ahead with the material. 14 Bxe7 definitely deserves full credit. |
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Sep-27-07
 | | fm avari viraf: White's position looks very dynamic & all set to unleash the forces on the Black's vulnerable Kingdom. Hence, the start of a beautiful combination is 14.Nxe7+! Nxe7 15.Nf6+ gxf6 16.Bxh7+! Kxh7 & is all over for Black. |
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