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Goran A Kosanovic vs Vladimir Pajkovic
YUG-Cup 36th (1993), Becici MNE, rd 5, May-??
Scotch Game: Scotch Gambit. Advance Variation (C45)  ·  1-0



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Feb-15-05  Poisonpawns: 47...Rd5?? why not simple Ra8
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  beatgiant: <Poisonpawns: 47...Rd5?? why not simple Ra8> Have you got any further analysis after 47...Ra8 48. Kb5? It looks to me like White will still win the c-pawn, for example 47...Ra8 48. Kb5 c3 49. Kb4 Rc8 50. Rc2.
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  beatgiant: <Poisonpawns>
Or maybe your idea is to try to hold back the a-pawn by harassing the White king with checks, but White still seems to be able to keep control:

47...Ra8 48. Kb5 Rb8+ 49. Kxc4 Rc8+ 50. Kb3 Rb8+ 51. Kc2 Ra8 52. Kb1 h5 53. Rb2 Kh4 54. Rb5 g5 55. Kb2 g4 56. Kb3, and the a-pawn starts to advance while 56...gxh3 57. gxh3 Kxh3 58. Rxh5+ is a book win.

I'd be interested to know what you saw here.

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  beatgiant: <Poisonpawns>
I just noticed that the line I posted above is not so easy, because Black has 56...gxh3 57. gxh3 Rh8! at the end of it, which looks drawish.

So maybe this was your idea. It does look like a better defense, and I haven't figured out a win for White yet against the plan of 47...Ra8 48. Kb5 Rb8+.

Feb-16-05  Poisonpawns: I will try to look in depth but i know the defenders plan in these positions is to get behind the pawn,so perhaps the rook should try to get to a1 square.The plan of bringing the king out to early,proved costly for black as the checks gained precious time to advance the a-pawn.I think before black moves the king out in the open,his rook should be on A1 so that either whites king or rook will be tied to its defense,only then move the king out.
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  beatgiant: <Poisonpawns>
<the defenders plan in these positions is to get behind the pawn,so perhaps the rook should try to get to a1 square.>

I think that idea is more applicable in the absense of the kings. Here, White's king is supporting the a-pawn, which is why I gave the line of harrassing the king with checks to hold back the pawn.

I suspect this draws. Another example of a try for White is:

47...Ra8 48. Kb5 Rb8+ 49. Kxc4 Rc8+ 50. Kb3 Rb8+ 51. Kc2 Ra8 52. Kb1 h5 53. Rf3 Kh4 54. a3 g5 55. Ka2 g4 56. hxg4 hxg4 57. Rc3 Rf8 58. Rc2 Ra8 59. Kb3 Rb8+, etc. and I don't see how White can make progress.

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