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| Dec-17-08 | | Autoreparaturwerkbau: 22...Bxb2! Wow, I never saw that one coming! 31...b3 is also sweet. |
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| Dec-17-08 | | SufferingBruin: Tal.
More and more, I'm convinced the only thing that stopped him from becoming the best player ever was his health. The guy saw things over the board that ordinary mortals just don't see. |
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| Jun-21-09 | | pom nasayao: White should have resigned after move 33. |
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| May-02-10 | | sicilianhugefun: Absolutely great play by Misha! He displays fireworks not only during middle games but even on endgames as well... Salute to the great TAL!! |
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Jul-15-13
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Teschner never had a plan. I know this because I would lose games just like this for just that reason--even if my opponents never had Tal's flair for tactics. |
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Jul-15-13
 | | offramp: 37.Rc4 is total desperation stakes. Amazing play by Tal. Perhaps his opponent should have played b3 himself instead of Re3. |
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Jul-15-13
 | | FSR: This game doesn't seem all that amazing to me. I just read Sosonko's book <The World Champions I Knew>. He says that a lot of Tal's "health problems" stemmed from being an alcoholic and drug abuser. |
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| Jul-15-13 | | RookFile: This is a good game by Tal, it's similar to Morphy exploiting a time advantage. |
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| Jul-15-13 | | AutumnLord: I totally agree with SufferingBruin! Conversely I disagree with FSR about his last sentence.
A lot of people with big health issues are going to "cloud" pain through alcohol and drugs. It is not a good thing but can be understood.
In any case in my opinion even if Tal will not be remember as the Greatest in fact he is. |
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| Jul-15-13 | | morfishine: <FSR> On your comment: <He says that a lot of Tal's "health problems" stemmed from being an alcoholic and drug abuser> Was Sosonko a doctor? Tal had chronic kidney problems since birth (as well a congenital deformity electradactyly) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ectrod..., resulting in the removal of one kidney in 1969. So what came first, the chicken or the egg? His smoking and drinking only degraded his already weak constitution. |
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Jul-15-13
| | FSR: <morfishine> Yes, Tal had serious health problems, which were worsened by his drinking, smoking, and drug abuse. I'm pretty sure that Sosonko is not a physician, but he knew Tal well. And of course I agree that Tal was a great player. |
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| Jul-15-13 | | gars: <FSR, morfishine, SufferingBruin, AutumnLord>: May I quote Tal himself? "I smoke, I drink, I gamble, I chase women. The only vice I don't have is Postal Chess".
On page 9 of "Tal's Best Games 1961-1973" (Bernard Cafferty, Batsford, 1975) there is a shortened translation of Alexander Kotov's article "The Paganini of Chess", written in 1964, in which Kotov states that most of Tal's problems stemmed from overzealous parents. |
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| Jul-15-13 | | gars: About this game, P.H.Clarke states in "Mikhail Tal's Best Games of Chess" (G.Bell and Sons, 1973) that after 38) Bd4+ e5 white lost on time. |
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| Jul-15-13 | | Abdel Irada: It's been said, "Genes load the gun; environment pulls the trigger." Tal's vices (environment) may very well have hastened his death, but by how much it is impossible to determine. Congenital illnesses (genetic) would in any case have shortened Tal's life and worsened his health; beyond that, all is conjecture. All we can say for sure is that somewhere in the synthesis of heredity and environment lay the pattern of Tal's undoing. (Then again, all too soon, the same will be said for each of us.) The wizard is indeed "late." (Chorus.)
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Jul-15-13
 | | Domdaniel: It is sad to see that people such as FSR -- whom I often agree with -- are still attaching moral opprobrium to addiction. |
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Jul-15-13
 | | OhioChessFan: Is there some tipping point between freely chosen and addiction driven actions? If a person doesn't take the first ___________, he won't become addicted to ______________. For example, I think it'd be a hard case to make that a person is wrong to try cocaine, but once they become an addict, it's no longer a moral issue, or in this specific case, attach moral opprobrium to the first and not the second. |
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Jul-15-13
| | offramp: Looks like I picked the wrong day to give up sniffing glue. |
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| Jul-15-13 | | JoergWalter: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/... |
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| Jul-15-13 | | Abdel Irada: <*ttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/...> I would put minimal credence in anything asserted in the Telegraph's "science" section. This ground has been gone over many times, and any notion that personality can be *entirely* attributed to either nature or nurture has been thoroughly discredited. Back in the 1980s and a bit before, slipshod studies of twins made all sorts of startling assertions about them. Follow-up studies, however, proceeded to expose the flaws in their predecessors, and since then the prevailing understanding has been that complex factors like personality result from a *synthesis* of heredity and environment. ∞ |
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| Jul-15-13 | | JoergWalter: The nature / nuture debate was/is an ideological one. However, when I see my kids I can assure you it is nature. With the necessary genes and the determination/character to make it you will. Unfortunately, the world is full of "unsuccessful talents" blaming a bad fate, adverse conditions or a dad that could not (financially in most cases) support their ambitions for their failure. Lame excuses for poor effort. |
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| Jul-15-13 | | estrick: What if 33. Bd4?
What does Black have up his sleeve? |
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Jul-15-13
 | | playground player: "A wizard is never late..." Where does that come from? I'm sure I know, somewhere in my mind. I know I've read that somewhere, or heard it as a line spoken in a movie. The Roman general Lucullus, a military wizard, was never late; but he was never early, either. |
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| Jul-15-13 | | JoergWalter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um5K... |
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| Jul-15-13 | | Abdel Irada: <With the necessary genes and the determination/character to make it you will. Unfortunately, the world is full of "unsuccessful talents" blaming a bad fate, adverse conditions or a dad that could not (financially in most cases) support their ambitions for their failure. Lame excuses for poor effort.> Are you implying that crony capitalism is a meritocracy? History abounds in examples of geniuses (in chess, literature, art, music, mathematics, science...) who lived and died in poverty. Each of them possessed undeniable talent, and made such use of it that we remember their names with reverence. Was each of them lacking in character, or is it possible that the conditions of their lives gave them no real opportunity to improve their economic lot? (We can continue this conversation on <Kenneth Rogoff> if you would prefer.) ∞ |
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| Jul-15-13 | | JoergWalter: <Abdel Irada> I am was not talking about financial/commercial success. I was talking about not developing one's talent and blaming the "conditions" for not doing so. Yes, many geniuses died poor but they died and are remembered as geniusses and not as poor men/women. |
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