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Carl Schlechter vs Otto Strobl
Vienna (1914), Vienna AUH
Spanish Game: Open Variations. Classical Defense (C83)  ·  1-0

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Apr-18-06
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  chancho: <itz2000> After 23...Kh7 24.Rf4 wins.
Apr-18-06  NotABanker: Easy, I want something hard, so bring on Wednesday!
Apr-18-06
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  LIFE Master AJ: Dang, too tough for me. I thought for over 30 minutes and didn't even come close.
Apr-18-06
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  LIFE Master AJ: Just kidding! (This is not the "Odd Lie" page.)
Apr-18-06  slapwa: itz2000: show me a way to mate if 23..Kh7

24. Rf6

Apr-18-06
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  LIFE Master AJ: Thanks CG for a good puzzle, about right for a Tuesday, I reckon.
Apr-18-06
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  chancho: <slapwa> 24.Rf6 does not lead to a forced mate. Black can play 24...Bd7 (of course that drops the Queen and loses) 24.Rf4 does not force mate either.
Apr-18-06  Richerby: <chancho> It's fair to assume that there'll be a forced mate in, say, ten or fifteen once White's a queen up...
Apr-18-06
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  chancho: <Richerby> Of course. But I'm referring to the position after 23...Kh7.
Apr-18-06  weary willy: 23 .... Kh7
24 Rf6 Bd7
25 Rxd6 cxd6
26 Rf1 Rg8 (or ... f5, 27 Rf4)
27 Rxf7+ Kh8
28 Qh6 #
(am I missing something?!)
Apr-18-06
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  Richard Taylor: I found this fairly quickly - its now a forced mate in few moves 23. ... Kh7 24 Rf6 Bd7 25 Raf1 Qxf6 26 Rxf6 Bf5 27 Rh6+ Bh7 28 Qf5 any move 29 Qxh7# But in the var by <weary willy> he missed 26...f6 27 Qh6+ Kg8 28 Qg6+ Kh8 29 Rf4 Bg4 30 Rxg4 Rf7 31 Rh4+ Rh7 32 RxR# I think. Lol!
Apr-18-06
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  Richard Taylor: < OBIT: No credit on this one unless you also considered 21...Kg7 and 21...Kh8. (I came up with the same line as cuendillar.) From a material standpoint, all 21. Bxh7 does is regain the sacrificed pawn. > No credit -nonsense -it's a waste of time looking at that its clearly a win!! It is obvious with only some very cursory analysis that Bxh7+ wins - Black was lost after he advanced his g pawn in front of his King.
Apr-18-06  dakgootje: easy puzzle. Its obvious there is going to be an attack at the black king, and the main pieces in that combination will be the white bishop, queen and f1-rook. Then its just looking at possible moves and eliminating the ones which do almost nothing... Well you see white rooks cant do much yet, thus there has to be something quick with the bishop or queen. The g-file is half open, but due to defended squares the white queen cant deliver a check. So the other thing for the white queen is a mate threat with the bishop on g7, but pity that the diagonal is immediately closed of by f5, so thats no option either. Then the white bishop is only left for doing SOMETHING, and the only forcing move is Bxh7, after which white gains the ability to deliver a check, thus gains a tempo for the attack and also with moving the white queen it cleans the f-file for the rook and thus that piece can be activated also.

Thats one way to solve the puzzle... an other way is play enough, recognise the kind of position and following after that find the most obvious move, which was here the correct one.

Apr-18-06  vizir: found the whole line in about 3-4 secs :-D
Apr-18-06  mr j: I saw that white could bring the rook up as to threaten mate forcing an exchange with blacks queen. I stopped analysing at this point assuming white would now easily win the game. nice puzzle :)
Apr-18-06  YouRang: I've seen this theme lots of times: Sac to open the g+h files; Queen moves in to check on g file forcing king to h-file; Rook lift to threaten mate on h-file.

I almost expect that this tactical pattern must have a name.

In this case, it wins a queen and a pawn for a rook and a bishop, with more material to come and an easily won game.

Apr-18-06  zb2cr: Saw it quickly.
Apr-18-06
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  kevin86: White must attack quickly before black plays f5 to block the bishop.

The check at h7 comes first followed by the queen checks and Rf6.

Apr-18-06  thschess: I agree, too easy. I'm not supposed to figure these things out. lol
Apr-18-06  mindless: How come I've never seen the move 7.d4...What makes this move strong/weak? I was always more keen on 7.Re1 or 7.c3. What are the strengths and weaknesses of these moves? And finally which would you prefer?
Apr-18-06
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  OBIT: <mindless> 7. d4 just looks like a transposition to the main line of the Open Ruy Lopez to me. The most common move order is probably 5... Nxe4 6. d4 b5 7. Bb3.
Apr-18-06  aazqua: This puzzle is absurdly easy, but if you aren't familiar with the concept of a "rook lift" it can be educational.
Apr-18-06  TheUnkraut: A good example for evolution in chess: today, noone would care about this combination if it were played between two 1800 elo-players in some internetchessforum....
Apr-18-06  BishopofBlunder: I spent a lot of time on this one. I kept looking for an "easier" win. It was many minutes afore I realized the rook lift seals black's doom.
Apr-26-06
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  patzer2: White's demolition sacrfice 21. Bxh7+! leaves Black defenseless.
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