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| Jan-16-04 | | Benjamin Lau: This game looks familiar. It may be a duplicate. |
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| Jan-16-04 | | Brian Watson: 16.Nf3 g5 |
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| Jan-17-04 | | Resignation Trap: If 16. Nf3 g5, 17. Qe2. What then? White threatens 18. Qxb5+, a plethora of discovered checks, not to mention such moves as Bxf7+, or Ne5, blocking the d6 Bishop's diagonal. And if 17...hxg3 18. fxg3, guarding the second rank. |
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| Jan-17-04 | | ughaibu: If 16.Nf3 surely he just takes with the h-pawn. |
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| Jan-17-04 | | Calli: I think RTrap's point is that 16.Nf3 hxg3 17.fxg3 Bxf3 18.Rxf3 Qxh2+ 19.Kf1 Bxg3 20.Nf5! Qh1+ 21.Ke2 Qg2+ 22.Kd3 and White's king escapes. I don't see a win for black, although 20...O-O-O probably draws. |
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| Jan-18-04 | | ughaibu: Okay. Returning to 16....g5 if black castles long in reply to Qe2 does white have any further defense? |
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| Jan-18-04 | | Brian Watson: My thinking was 16.Nf3 g5 17.Qe2 O-O-O, then:
18.d5 hxg3 19.fxg3 g4
or 18.Ne5 Bxe5 19.dxe5 Ng4
or 18.Nxg5 Qxh2+
or 18.Nxh4 Rxh4 |
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| Dec-12-04 | | Poisonpawns: Movsesian vs Illescas-Cordoba, 1998 these two games and you will see where The inspiration comes from for todays players, a pretty game |
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| Dec-17-04 | | notsodeepthought: Given the above discussion, perhaps black's best way to continue the attack on move 15 is ... Ng4. After 16 Nf3, simply ... B:f3 renewing the mating threat in h2. After 16 N:g4, ... h:g4 with the same threat. |
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| Dec-18-04 | | Calli: <deep> White can defend h2 with 15...Ng4 16.Nxg4 hxg4 17.Qe2+ Kd7 18.f4 |
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| Dec-18-04 | | notsodeepthought: <Calli> Good point, my bad. |
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| Dec-18-04 | | Brian Watson: hmmm ... my "analysis" appears to be pure twaddle. |
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Dec-18-04
 | | tpstar: <Brian Watson> Hello! Nice to see you again! Looks like your analysis was fine, but you could always repost any improvements. Powerful attack by Black. |
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| Dec-18-04 | | Brian Watson: why thank you <tpstar>. But after 16.Nf3 g5 17.Qe2 0-0-0 18.d5 hg 19.fg g4, doesn't white just block the h-file with Nh4? I think Resignation Trap correctly spotted an unsound sac. |
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| Dec-18-04 | | morphy234: After 16. Nf3 then
16...hxg3
17. fxg3 Bxg3
18. hxg3 Bxf3
19. Rxf3 Qh1+
20. Kf2 Rh2+
and black has some advantage.
21. Ng2 Rxg2+
22. Ke3 Rg1
and after Qc2 there is a mate in four:
23. Qc2 Re1+
24. Kf4 Qh6+
25. Kf5 Qg6+
26. Kf4 Nh5# 0-1 |
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| Mar-29-07 | | Archives: A rare miniature for Rubinstein!
Razuvaev claims that 10.0-0 was the decisive mistake for White, but a quick run with Rybka does not agree. Although after 10.0-0 Black does get an advantage with 10...b5! it is certainly not a decisive advantage. 11...Bb7?! lets the advantage slip, letting White equalize with 12.f4 Black then lets the advantage slip again with 12...Qh4 as 13.g3 equalizes
(Better for Black was 12...0-0)
Rubinstein then makes a bad move with 14...h5?! as after 15.cxd4 h4 16.Nf3! hxg3 17.fxg3 Bxf3 18.Rxf3 Qxh2+ 19.Kf1 and Blacks attack is dead. However White returns the favor with 16.Qe2?? which automatically leads to a mate in three. |
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| Dec-01-08 | | Phony Benoni: Could White be the sAme person as Zdzislaw Belsitzmann? |
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| Dec-01-08 | | Karpova: <Phony Benoni>
Yes, White is Zdzislaw Belsitzmann. This game is also from a Warsaw City Championship. The game was played on March 8. |
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| Dec-01-08 | | Phony Benoni: <Karpova> Thanks. He was obviously a much stronger player than this game indicates! |
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Dec-16-13
 | | Stonehenge: <The game was played on March 8.> On March 3 according to:
http://kranten.kb.nl/view/article/i... But they can be wrong of course. |
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| Jan-14-14 | | MarkFinan: 
click for larger viewThis is really really interesting for an engine novice like myself. Here, before the dreadful 16.Qe2?? my engine has white up! But to the human eye (well done guess I can only speak for myself!) this looks awful for white.. Look at whites *overwhelmed and overworked* knights. They can't move! Look at blacks bishops on those diagonals.. the attack down the h file.. Blacks queen! It really does look bleak for white to me yet the engine has white slightly ahead! I can feel a webpage and accompanying video coming along, lol. |
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| Jan-14-14 | | morfishine: <MarkFinan> Its hard to imagine White up in this position, what-with those Black Bishops and what-not. Rubenstein plays "Like a Russian": whatever you got, point it at the enemy king |
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| Jan-14-14 | | MarkFinan: Morf.. Have you let your engine look at this position? It's crazy! I think, to my patzer eye, that position looks resignable... but apparently, whites up! Mad. |
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| Jan-14-14 | | morfishine: <MarkFinan> Yes it is crazy, I need to look at this more tomorrow. Its important I think, to check this one closely, if one would like to sharpen their tactics for defense. I'm not perfectly convinced that the attack is unsound; More than likely, Rubenstein had some hidden continuation, or maybe he didn't...or maybe he got distracted by that fly on his nose and fooled White into blundering. This one needs a much closer look. It has some kbitz, but not much. Thanks for bringing this one to light! ***** |
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Mar-13-17
 | | offramp: A game played 100 years and 10 days ago.
15...h4!
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Now White's best move, as people said earlier, is 16. Nf3. Black would then play 16...hxg3 and the only good answer to that is 17. fxg3.
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Black is a piece and a pawn down.
Analysis by Stockfish 8 64:
1. = (0.00): 17...Bxf3 18.Rxf3 Qxh2+ 19.Kf1 Bxg3
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20.Rxf6 [20. Nf5] 20...gxf6 21.Qf3 0-0-0 22.Nf5 Kb8 23.Nxg3 
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23...Rh3 24.Qxf6 Rd6 25.Qf2 Qxg3 26.Qxg3 Rxg3 27.Ke2 Rg2+ 28.Kd3 c5 29.Bxf7 Rxd4+ 
click for larger view2.  (0.33): 17...Bxg3 18.Qe2 Bxf3 19.Rxf3 Bxh2+ 
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20.Kf2 Bg3+ 21.Rxg3 Ne4+ 
click for larger view 22.Ke1 Qxg3+ 23.Kd1 Kf8 24.Qxb5 
click for larger view3.  (1.10): 17...0-0-0 18.Qe2 Bxg3 19.Qg2 Bf4 20.Qxh3+ Rxh3 21.d5 Rdh8. 
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