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Miguel Quinteros vs Yasser Seirawan
"Yasser, That's My Bogo" (game of the day Jun-05-2018)
Biel Interzonal (1985), Biel SUI, rd 12, Jul-16
Bogo-Indian Defense: Vitolinsh Variation (E11)  ·  0-1

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Jun-05-18  Ironmanth: Nice game!
Jun-05-18
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  mjmorri: I believe Indian defenses are defined more by restricted pawn movements than by anything else.
Jun-05-18  Once: I think the Indian defenses were originally those with a fianchetto, but that the group of defenses has since grown to include variations without a fianchetto.

More info here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India...

When Nimzowitch played the Nimzo-Indian/ Queens Indian complex he often liked to include a b6/ Bb7 sequence as part of his strategy of attacking the centre from afar.

Jun-05-18  takchess: Thanks for the side trip everyone. This is the fellow mentioned in the wiki Bonnerjee Mohishunder
Jun-05-18
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  Breunor: Stockfish says white goes wrong on move 17. 17 Ndf3 evaluates to 1.82;

Q7 Ndf3 Nh4 18 Nxe6.

The text move evaluates to -.48. I guess the difference here is that with the knight on f3, after exf6 Nxf6, the black knight on f6 threatens to take the white knight on e4; but I'm not sure. With the white knight on f3 in contrast, white can play Nxe6 and black then can't play Nxe4.

Jun-05-18  cormier: Analysis by Houdini 4:

<d 22 dpa: 1. + / - (1.36): 14.Ndf3> Nb8 15.Qb1+ f5 16.exf6+ Kxf6 17.Ne5 Nc6 18.Nh7+ Ke7 19.Ng6+ Kf7 20.Nhxf8 cxd4 21.Qd3 Nf6 22.a4 Qd6 23.f4 Qd5 24.Rae1 Ng4 25.Ne5+ Kxf8 26.Nxg4 Qf5 27.Nf2 Bd7 28.Ne4 Rc8 29.Rd1 b6 30.Nd6 Qxd3 31.Rxd3

d 21 dpa: 2. + / - (0.93): 14.Qc2+ f5 15.exf6+ Kxg5 16.fxg7 Kh6 17.gxf8Q+ Nxf8 18.dxc5 Nf4 19.Rad1 b6 20.Ne4 Bb7 21.f3 Kg7 22.g3 Nd5 23.Qc1 bxc5 24.Nxc5 Qb6 25.Qc4 Ng6 26.Qd4+ e5 27.Qf2 Rd8 28.Nxb7 Qxb7 29.Rfe1 Qa6 30.b3 Qb7

Jun-05-18  morfishine: <Breunor> Thank you, can you translate your last gibberish, please, thank you
Jun-05-18
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  Check It Out: My dad used to sing, "Yasser, that's my Seirwan, no sir, you let the bear win"
Jun-05-18  daveinsatiable: <DionysiusI> No sir!!

The pun refers, at least I hope it refers (otherwise the punster should have his punning rights withdrawn) to 1977 disco classic "Yes sir, I can boogie" by Baccara (https://www.google.co.uk/url?q=http...)

For <Once>, <morf>'s habitual outrage would have been justified, if he'd have been bothered to be outraged, as the pun should of course have read 'Yasser, I can Bogo'
which would have been a top, top pun.

Jun-05-18  thegoodanarchist: <Check It Out: My dad used to sing, "Yasser, that's my Seirwan, no sir, you let the bear win">

Well, there must be an interesting anecdote behind that story, sir!

Jun-05-18  PaulBl: According to Euwe, described in his book about the Nimzo Indian (nr. 4 out of a series of 12), the name Indian has nothing to do with India. It was proposed by Tartakower as a neutral name for all the 1. d4, Nf6 openings, and got general acceptance.

Kind regards,
Paul

Jun-05-18
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  Check It Out: <tga> Yasser lived in Seattle for a long time so I got to rub shoulders with him at tournaments from time to time. Korchnoi invited him to train for the upcoming 1981 Korchnoi-Karpov match, and we know how that turned out. My dad, ever the musician and joker, loved bleating that line out after Korchnoi lost.
Jun-05-18  ChessHigherCat: Yes Sir, Zero-One

Extremely flashy and intricate mating net, especially considering that Seirawan could have won easily with the no-brainer 34...Rxd2 (which turns out to be mate in 8). He must have been going for the beauty prize.

Jun-06-18
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  Breunor: Morf,

I was guessing the difference between 17 Ndf3 and 17 Nde4 (both protect the other knight on g5) is that after white plays P x f6 as in the actual game, and black plays 17 Nxf6, there is a difference. If the white knight is on f3, the black knight on f6 doesn't threaten the knight if it is on f3 as opposed to e4 as in the actual game. So in the actual game white had to play 18 Nxf6; had the knight been on f3 white could play 18 Nxe6 immediately. I'm speculating that is why Stockfish considers 17 Nf3 as very advantageous and 17 Ne4 as giving up the lead.

Jun-06-18  morfishine: <Breunor> Thank you very much, I see now sir, best
Jun-06-18
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  Dionysius1: Yer right <Daveinsatiable>. That would have been a top class pun. But...
Jun-06-18  thegoodanarchist: < Check It Out: <tga> Yasser lived in Seattle for a long time so I got to rub shoulders with him at tournaments from time to time. Korchnoi invited him to train for the upcoming 1981 Korchnoi-Karpov match, and we know how that turned out. My dad, ever the musician and joker, loved bleating that line out after Korchnoi lost.>

And just that! Thanks!

Jun-06-18  morfishine: <Daveinsatiable> You are correct sir, and I second the motion to change this game title
Jun-07-18  ChessHigherCat: Nobody likes <Yes Sir, Zero-One> = Yassir Seirawan?
Jun-07-18  N0B0DY: <Nobody likes <Yes Sir, Zero-One> = Yassir Seirawan?> That is what it looks like.
Jun-07-18  ChessHigherCat: <N0B0DY: <Nobody likes <Yes Sir, Zero-One> = Yassir Seirawan?> That is what it looks like.

Well then, congratulations, NOBODY has good taste!

Jan-13-19  Saniyat24: <NOBODY has good taste!> that was very funny...! By the way, who or what is Vitolinsh? Never heard something like that before...
Jan-13-19  whiteshark: <Saniyat24: <NOBODY has good taste!> that was very funny...! By the way, who or what is Vitolinsh?> --> Alvis Vitolinsh
Jan-13-19  Saniyat24: thanks, <whiteshark>
Jan-13-19  Saniyat24: wow, this game should have a warning tag, 'Do not try this at home...!' 16...N7f6! :O
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