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| Jul-08-21 | | Brenin: We're captive on the carousel of time.
We can't return, we can only look
Behind, from where we came
And go round and round and round, in the circle game. |
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Jul-08-21
 | | Phony Benoni: Folks, if you're not happy with the repeated GOTDs, I suggest you post a note at User: chessgames.com. If you don't do that, they many not even be aware there is a problem and it will never get fixed. |
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| Jul-08-21 | | areknames: AFAIC this magnificent game could be GOTD every day of the year, and well done to <paavoh> for a delightfully droll pun. |
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Jul-08-21
 | | al wazir: "Beat Noire?" But Noire *won*.
Maybe it should have been "bet Noire." |
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| Jul-08-21 | | vermapulak: It takes "20 Years" for Tal to win over Polugaevsky after his first win on 1959. |
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| Jul-08-21 | | Ironmanth: Misha always threw heavy stuff, and often got away with it! RIP, GM Tal. Y'all stay safe out there today, and play often, well, and fairly. |
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| Jul-08-21 | | siggemannen: Isn't bete noire something like a nemesis you always lose against. In that case at least the pun makes sense (not that the pun is all that great) |
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Jul-08-21
 | | perfidious: <siggemannen: Isn't bete noire something like a nemesis you always lose against....> Indeed it is. |
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| Jan-04-24 | | Saniyat24: stumbled upon an agadmator video on youtube on this game- https://youtu.be/uTWSFGsqDO8?si=EPz... |
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| Jan-20-24 | | mel gibson: I didn't chose that move.
I found it very complicated.
Stockfish 16 says:
23. .. Rdf3
(23. .. Rdf3 (1. ... Rdf3 2.Nxf8 Nd3 3.Nb5 Nxe1+ 4.Rxe1 Qxa2 5.Na3 Rxf8 6.Rf1 Rd8 7.Kh1 h5 8.Rb5 Bd4
9.Rb1 e5 10.h4 gxh3 11.Rf3 Kb8 12.Kh2 h4 13.Kxh3 hxg3 14.Rfb3 Rh8+ 15.Kg2
b6 16.Nb5 Rg8) +7.37/42 446)
score for Black +7.37 depth 42. |
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| Jan-20-24 | | mel gibson: < Saniyat24: stumbled upon an agadmator video on youtube on this game-> Thanks - agadmator always does a good job.
I always enjoy his videos. |
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Jan-20-24
 | | chrisowen: Sang bleu c or rf3 x |
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| Jan-20-24 | | Damenlaeuferbauer: This is a very famous game: After long pondering, the 8th world champion Mikhail Tal, the wizard of Riga, finally found 23.-,Rdf3! 24.Nxf8,Nd3! 25.Qd1 (25.Qe2,Nd4 26.Qd1,Qxd1 27.Txd1,Rf2+ 28.Kh1 [28.Kg1,Nf3+ 29.Kh1,Rxh2#] 28.-,Nf3 -+) 25.-,Qxe4 (threatening 26.-,Rf2++ 27.Kg1,Qg2#) 26.Rxf3,gxf3+ 27.Kf1 (27.Qxf3,Ne1+ -+; 27.Kh3,Nf2+ -+; 27.Kh1,f2+ 28.Qf3,Qxf3#; 27.Kg1,f2+ 28.Kf1,Qh1+/Qe1+ -+) 27.-,Qf5 (threatening 28.-,Qh3+ 29.Kg1,Qg2#) 28.Kg1,Bd4+ (29.Kh1,Nf2+ -+; 29.Kf1,Qh3+ 30.Kg1,Qg2#). |
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| Jan-20-24 | | Messiah: Very difficult, did not see it. |
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Jan-21-24
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Already knew this one; final score for the week = 11 solved, 1 flubbed, 2 already known. Otherwise, would not have solved this one. The position after 8...fxe6 arose quite often at the highest levels circa 1980; guess the GMs wanted the madness. |
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Jan-21-24
 | | Breunor: Crazy! Tal was such a a genius - I could never get this in 100 years, but what a joy to play through! |
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Jan-21-24
| | perfidious: <Breunor....I could never get this in 100 years....> Don't I know it. |
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| Jan-21-24 | | 1stboard: Another one of Tal's very instructive games ..... |
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| Jan-21-24 | | Alan McGowan: Black's opening idea was introduced in W Koch vs K Richter, 1930 |
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| Jan-21-24 | | stone free or die: <Alan> - which opening idea? |
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Jan-22-24
 | | Retireborn: The "structure sacrifice" 6...Be6, presumably. I can find earlier games with 6...e6 and 6...Nd3+. 5.e4 was apparently Nimzowitsch's innovation. |
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| Jan-22-24 | | stone free or die: Thanks <Retireborn> that's what I was thinking as well. I guess that has to be <Alan>'s idea. What's funny is <Koch--Richter (1930)> game wasn't the game that caused the move to get adopted, afaik. The idea of 6...Be6 seems to have been forgotten until the early 1970's when it showed up in a couple of correspondence games. As for OTB play, this game seems to have "rediscovered" the move: O'Kelly vs S Palatnik, 1976 Or should I say (re)introduced the move into competitive play? (Side note, there's also <Ornstein--Schmidt - Malmo (1976) 0-1>, which was also played in 1976. Which came first is uncertain to me, but Palatnik is higher rated than Schmidt, and other Malmo tournaments in later years were in Dec. I could see a draw followed by a win catching player's eyes, but this is all speculation). We really need two verbs - one for the first time a move is played, and another for when the played move is noticed and fashion follows. |
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| Jan-22-24 | | Alan McGowan: Yes, I could have said things more clearly - I did mean 6...Be6. That move was also seen in Golombek-Mulder van Leens Dijkstra, Leeuwarden 1947. After 7.Bxe6 Black chose 7...fxe6. Golombek's notes said (in descriptive notation, though): 'If 7...Nd3+ 8.Kf1 fxe6 9.Qb3 Qb6 10.Qc4 Qa6 11.Nb5 and White wins.' A rather bare review of things. Having looked out the game, I will submit it. |
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| Jan-23-24 | | stone free or die: Well, at least one author agrees with my assessment that the opening novelty wasn't widely adopted until the 1970's: W Koch vs K Richter, 1930 (kibitz #1) Ha! |
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| Jan-23-24 | | Damenlaeuferbauer: <Alan McGowan> <stone free or die>: Refering to the famous game Lev Polugaevsky vs. Mikhail Tal, Riga (izt) 1979, rd. 2, your finding and mentioning of the previous game Wilhelm Koch vs. Kurt Richter, Berlin (ch) 1930 in "Vossische Zeitung", June 1, 1930 is REMARKABLE and VERY IMPORTANT. Do you know, that Erich Maria Remarque's sensational novel "All Quiet on Western Front", the most sold fiction book of the 20th century in German language, was FIRST published in November and December 1928 in "Vossische Zeitung"? |
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