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Feb-24-21 | | malt: 14.b6 looks good. |
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Feb-24-21 | | saturn2: White has a knight more and wins another rook by
14. b6 Bxd5 15. bxa7 Nc6 16. a8 |
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Feb-24-21 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: Monday-easy for me. Once I counted material on the board and saw there was little hope for a quick mate, the next idea was the game line. |
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Feb-24-21 | | belgradegambit: When Dlugy was 12 years old I played him in the last round of a tournament in Queens in February 1980. The game opened 1.d4Nf6 2.c4c5.
Maxim hesitated and played 3.Nf3. I gradually developed a clearly better position and offered him a draw (which meant 3rd place and $300 for me). He asked me if he consult his father and I agreed. He then agreed to the draw and said I should have played on since I was better. I said it was late and he was a strong player and I felt I would find away to screw it up. He said he avoided playing d5 because he was afraid of the Benko gambit which I indeed was planning to play. Later he took the time to develop his own variation against the Benko. |
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Feb-24-21
 | | chrisowen: Coyote b6 yes no? |
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Feb-24-21 | | Fitzgerald Dawson: Where is everybody ?
i did not get this puzzle = : ( |
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Feb-24-21 | | mel gibson: Didn't see it.
Stockfish 12 agrees with the first ply:
14. b6
(14. b6 (b5-b6 c5-c4 b6xa7 ♕f2xa7 ♕d5xc4 ♕a7-c5 ♖h1-h4 ♕c5xc4
♖h4xc4 ♘b8-c6 ♗c1-f4 ♗f8-e7 ♘c3-d5 f7-f6 e5xf6 g7xf6 ♘e2-c3 ♔e8-f7 ♗f4-c7
♘c6-e5 ♖c4-f4 ♘e5-g6 ♖f4-a4 ♖h8-c8 ♗c7-g3 ♖c8-c5 ♖a4-d4 ♗e7-d8 f3-f4 ♗d8-a5
♔d1-c2 ♘g6-f8 ♘d5-b4 ♗a5xb4 ♖d4xb4 ♗b7-c8 a2-a3 ♖c5-c6) +10.04/36 85) score for White +10.04 depth 36. |
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Feb-24-21 | | Cellist: I did see the solution after trying to carry out a mating attack (which fails). I wonder if Dlugy saw the combination when he played Nc3, which allows the N to take the B on d5 and thereby removes a crucial defender of the potential queening square a8. |
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Feb-24-21
 | | chrisowen: No babes in the would b6 the in golds by legend? |
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Feb-24-21 | | saturn2: <Cellist I wonder if Dlugy saw the combination when he played Nc3, which allows the N to take the B on d5 and thereby removes a crucial defender of the potential queening square a8> I think the lNc3 has no importance in this puzzle and the combination is still working with the Nc3 removed from the board. |
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Feb-24-21 | | Brenin: Nice combination, and not too hard to see, once you realise that the P on b5 can be promoted, taking material en route. The position after 15 bxa7 is amusing, in a problem-like way: Black can save her N on b8 from 16 axb8=Q+, but only by 15 ... Nc6 which blocks her B on d5 from capturing on a8 after 16 a8=Q+. |
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Feb-24-21 | | Everett: 14.b6, and the Black pieces are tripping over each other |
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Feb-24-21 | | Refused: White move.
The queen is under attack, the white king is stranded in the center, but fairly safe there. Black's king is also still in the center but should be able to castle eventually, the black queen side is kinda disorganized. After trying to find a mating attack against the black king in the center, I decided to look for more promising things on the queen side. 14.b6! now the lack of coordination on the queen side becomes a real problem.
14...Bxd5 15.bxa7 Bd6 16.Nxd5 and now the a-pawn like Thanos calmly proclaims: <I am inevitable!>
1-0 |
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Feb-24-21 | | goodevans: <Jun-06-10 th3jamez: Nice. Im gunna start playing this f3 line.> Did you? Was it successful for you?
Polgar failed to find the 'book' line <7...Qe7 8.Qe2 Ng8 9.Nc3 Bb7> with a roughly equal position. White wins slightly more often than black from that position with fairly few draws. Sounds like a good enough reason to me for adopting it. <7...Nh5?> was a mistake and <8...Qh4+?> was an even bigger one, although I guess she was committed to playing it since otherwise she's just given up a pawn for no reason. Even without the <14.b6> resource black isn't getting anything like sufficient compensation for the sac'd N. |
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Feb-24-21 | | TheaN: I saw the point here, but played slightly sub optimal in a hastily "this is it" mode. <14.b6 Bxd5> if Ra8 15.Qxb7 +- <15.bxa7 Bd6> the only way to prevent a8Q. Here, 16.Nxd5! is best, because it forces promotion. I played <16.exd6 O-O 17.Nxd5 +-> and White has a rook and three pieces for the queen, which wins slightly slower. |
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Feb-24-21 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: I lost some time to find 14.b6! even though there is not much options of a good instant reply. I guess that Black could foreseen what was going on and, maybe, try another move, which also don't give a good play (e.g. 13...axb5 14. ♘xb5 ♗b7 15. ♘d6+ ♗xd6 16. ♕xd6 ♘c6 17. ♗g5 a6. White keeps the advantage ♗ for a ♙.
Diagram:
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Feb-24-21
 | | chrisowen: No it is his var was popular no no? Black do? B6 all his body parts no? |
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Feb-24-21
 | | master8ch: I realize this is "piling on," but a plausible continuation, if a twelve-year-old feels like acting her age, is 17...Bxe5 18.Ne7+ Kh8 19.f4 Bd6 20.Rxh7+ Kxh7 21.Qh1+, forcing mate with a piece that, appropriately, didn't even exist when this bizarre game began. |
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Feb-24-21 | | belgradegambit: How to win with black against this variation
E Klein vs Waitzkin, 1993 |
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Feb-24-21
 | | chrisowen: Wreck focus as in que flog b6 no? |
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Feb-24-21
 | | gawain: Nice puzzle. I never considered advancing that pawn! |
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Feb-24-21
 | | noads4me: Saw the sequence. Polgar cannot do anything about it. |
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Feb-24-21 | | TheaN: <belgradegambit: How to win with black against this variation E Klein vs Waitzkin, 1993> Checked that game, and even though I've seen incredible games from Waitzkin, he's objective lost when he gives the queen; play before that is best, though. Tricky variation, White basically turns the tables early on in the Benko. I don't often play the Indian as White but might try it just for this variation alone. |
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Feb-24-21 | | 1g1yy: Very cool, but I didn't have a prayer of seeing that coming. lol. |
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Feb-24-21
 | | Breunor: Pretty easy lately because white has nothing else with all of his other pieces way back. |
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