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Feb-25-04
 | | Honza Cervenka: Lovely miniature. There is no reasonable defence against 25.g6. If 24...Ne7, then 25.g6 Nxg6 26.Qxg6+ Kh8 27.Qh6+ Kg8 28.Rg1+ with a mate in next move. |
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| Oct-09-05 | | notsodeepthought: And, as usual, I didn't get the last (and key) move, in this case 24 g5. Well, actually that's not usual, since most of the time on Sundays I don't even get the first move. |
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| Oct-09-05 | | tonsillolith: What if 20...Ncxd6? I considered the text move for the answer to the puzzle but i decided it couldnt be because 20...Ncxd6 ruined it. |
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Oct-09-05
 | | perfidious: <tonsillolith> there would then follow 21.Ne7+ and Qxf8 mate. |
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| Oct-09-05 | | snowie1: Mistit. I played 20.Rd7 to crash thru f7 with R and B then Qxh7+ with N and R to back it up. It wins, anyway. |
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| Oct-09-05 | | snowie1: Another plan with 20.Rd7..(move)Re7 and if Nc don't capture, Bxf7+..Rxf7 and Rxe8+ & mate follows. Can anyone refute this tragedy? |
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| Oct-09-05 | | informeddissent: What about QxR as a defense for black trading off his queen for the rook and the agressive knight? Granted the c and e pawns look very weak but it appears to stymy all of whites immediate threats and keeps the material even. Or is there a tactic I am missing here? |
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| Oct-09-05 | | crafty: 20. ♖d7 gxf5 21. ♕xf8+ ♔xf8 22. ♖xf7+ ♔g8 23. gxf5 ♕d6 = (eval 0.16; depth 15 ply; 750M nodes) |
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| Oct-09-05 | | Seraphina: <informeddissent> You're right I think, black has at least something to play around with. ... My first thought on this puzzle was Bb5 if QxB then Rd8... But the answer gxf5 is a pain, (white has to then do Bc6, Ne7... Qg5 + etc, which doesn't seem to add up to a great game...
Looking at the actual game, however, I think Bb5 followed by Rd8 was playable on move 19. This suggests to me that Platonov already had his combo in mind a few moves earlier. |
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| Oct-09-05 | | yataturk: Is a queen vs rook+knight a very bad trade for black (ie 20...Qxd6)? |
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| Oct-09-05 | | chessnewbie: what about 20...Nexd6? how does white win? |
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| Oct-09-05 | | Sadgrinner: <chessnewbie> If 20...Nexd6, then:
21. Ne7+ Kh8 (forced)
22. Qxf8# |
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| Oct-09-05 | | Sadgrinner: Sorry! If 20... Ncxd6, then:
21. Ne7+ Kh8
22. Qxf8#
If 20...Nexd6, then
21. Qg7# |
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| Oct-09-05 | | Seraphina: <yataturk> As an alternative to the mate, it would have been better. In general, it is always dependent on the position of course. I have the suspicion that Savon simply didn't wish to spend another 30 moves losing the game, because be MUST have seen what was coming. |
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| Oct-09-05 | | dakgootje: One of the first things I saw was that if you could deflect one of the knights white would win, after which i thought for some seconds about ♖d8 untill i saw that ♕xd8 would ruin the fun quite a bit...
Then i considered ♖d6 but decided it to be too unclear whether white had a clear win after ♕xd6 so i eliminated that move too. And because i didnt see a more or less obvious winning move i started to look at some more quiet moves like 20. ♖dg1 (with the threat of 20. ...gxf5 21. gxf5 ♔h8 22. ♕xf8# (21. ...♕g6 22. ♖xg6 hxg6 23. fxg6 (threatening ♕h7#) ♘f6 24. g7 and the threat of ♕h8# cant be stopped)) and I thought that after 21. h4 white had an attack strong enough to win. |
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| Oct-09-05 | | molle2006: Argh... I found nearly everything, the two mate threats after Nxd6 (for both knights) ... but missed g5. |
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| Oct-09-05 | | MackTheTemp: if ncd6 it's mate in one after ne7+ |
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| Oct-09-05 | | PhantomKnight: I got a Sunday puzzle! I didn't see 24. g5, but I saw 24. Rg1, which also seems to win. |
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| Oct-09-05 | | aginis: <yataturk> 20.Rd6 Qxd6 21.Nxd6 Ncxd6 22.Bd5 Rd8 23.h4 Nf6 24.h5 Nxh5 (24...gxh5 25.Qxf6  ;24...Nxd5 25.hg Re8 26.gh+ Kh8 27.ed -> Qf6# ) 25.gh g5 26.Qxg5+ Kh8 27.h6 Ne8 28.Qxd8 |
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| Oct-09-05 | | lopium: Too deep ending for me, I mean I saw some other nice moves, but those one, just incredible. |
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| Oct-09-05 | | kevin86: Fine finish! Black's knights are pinned to his first row due to mate threats;therefore,white's rook can encroach and deliver mate threats-while chasing the hapless queen away from defense of the third row. |
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| Oct-09-05 | | arenafootball9: What about 20. Bb5 followed by Rd8. That gets rid of the knight. Then the pawn would have to take the knight on f5 opening up the g file for the rook. That's what I originally saw. 20. Bb5...QxB 21. Rd8...g6xf5
22.g4xf5...Ne7 or something 23. Rg1 with no way to stop mate |
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| Oct-09-05 | | Fezzik: Boy,
After Wade-Tal, 1966 on Saturday this was positively a cake-walk! Once I realised that the Black Knights were stuck the rest was easy! Thanks for giving me one I could solve! BTW, I am still embarrassed that I'd forgotten the Wade-Tal game which I studied once back in the 1980s.) |
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| Oct-09-05 | | Fezzik: Just an interesting note: Looking at the moves leading up to this position, Platonov was clearly planning something like this for at least three and probably more moves. He seems to have completely refuted Black's premature Q-side play. |
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Oct-09-05
 | | mahmoudkubba: As far as I saw it when their is the white night if their isn't there one of the black nights then it is a complete loss to black. That is say if their is a real elephant or a real camel not a bishop nor a horse. any how can any body tells me abt the such match: envelope, condition, other things important so as to knows whats really going on not only looking. UC even some pirces might be not useful for such a game but may be only if it is a dest been played by one match not the details or tournaments ..etc about it. well I'm trying my best to understand so if posible help and tell me more newixes and informatixes. |
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sac: 21.Rxg6+