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Jose Raul Capablanca vs Carlos Torre Repetto
Moscow (1925), Moscow URS, rd 11, Nov-23
French Defense: McCutcheon. Lasker Variation (C12)  ·  1/2-1/2



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Dec-14-03  MoonlitKnight: Yes, but to do something like that I think he must have been crazy from the start. Maybe he just hid it at first.
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  technical draw: You mean dancing in the streets naked is crazy? Then I better stop doing it.
Dec-14-03  PinkPanther: I wonder if the Repetto was in any way related to the guy that made Pinocchio, lol.
Dec-15-03  Cerebrate2006: Its only crazy if someone catches you...otherwisse its fine...i been doing it for years
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  Chessical: Torre had a nervous breakdown, and later recovered. He was never "a complete lunatic", which is a useless and hurtful phrase.
Dec-15-03  Kaspablanca: Moonlight and Pinkpanther: Why do you two refer Carlos Torre Repetto only to Reppetto? The correct thing is to refer him as Torre Repetto. He as Latin American use two surnames, the paternal surname (Torre) and the maternal surname(Repetto). Capablanca as Cuban also had two surnames, in many books in Spanish use his full name, Jose Raul Capablanca y Graupera.

Tecnical draw: Torre Repetto danced in the street naked as Green Bishop wrote. I read in a book that Torre Repetto was a very gentleman and a very polite chessplayer, when he ofered draw he asked this way: Quiere tablas señor?,(Call it a draw sir?)

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  jaime gallegos: Kaspablanca is a purist about the spanish names, it is enough to call them Capablanca and Torre to avoid mistakes because in many countries the last name is the last one ! Many people would think that Graupera or Repetto are the last names of this well knowing chess players.
Dec-15-03  Benjamin Lau: <Kaspablanca>

Actually, I was the one that reported Repetto "danced in the street naked." He supposedly tried to remove his clothing on a bus in New York, then jumped into the streets, going bonkers.

Here's a short biography I found concerning his insanity and several speculations (besides the one involving his fiancee).

Dec-15-03  Benjamin Lau:
Dec-15-03  MoonlitKnight: I just thought Repetto was a very cool name. It has a certain schwung. Also, a man must be crazy to give up chess when he is on the verge of becoming a top player! Kamsky was crazy, too.
Dec-15-03  Kaspablanca: Jaime Gallegos: I just made this remark to avoid confusion for those who doesnt know the rules of the Spanish last names and for they know how is the correct use. Most Latin Americans use their two last names in the personal documents as ID cards, passports or driver license. I am not just a purist of the Spanish names but also a purist of the Cervantes language itself. bueno no una cosa que diga que bruto que purista es este tipo pero si como decia Roberto Gomez Bolaños en el personaje del Chompiras.

Benjamin Lau: Ha ha, i´ve never heard that story, i always though Torre Repetto danced in the street due to his mental condition.

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  technical draw: <Kaspablanca> Yo prefiero el personaje del Chavo Del Ocho.
Dec-16-03  Kaspablanca: Tecnical draw: I see you can speak the language of Cervantes, i am glad of that. Roberto Gomez Bolaños is a genius of the Latin American humor, a mi tambien me gusta el personaje del chavo del ocho pero mi favorito es el chompiras.
Dec-21-03  Ruylopez: Usar los apellidos paternos y maternos no es solamente una costumbre latinoamericana. También se sigue en España. Pero su uso en los Estados Unidos casi siempre resulta en confusión.
Mar-29-04  ArturoRivera: A remarkable draw by the Mexican Repetto, beacause all is ciclic, every move of a pawn, the knight, the king, everithing leads to a draw, i am sorry capablanca, but this fich was just to big for you.
Aug-27-04  lao tzu: The name "Torre" means "Tower". Tartakover once observed that the reason Torre was so successful was that he played with three towers!
Dec-12-04  Republic of Texas: <lao tzu>: In chess, Torre also means Rook/Castle...... Within a few days, the 17th Annual Carlos Torre Repetto Tournament will begin in Mérida, Yucatán, México.
Feb-05-07  CapablancaFan: Wow, what a showing by Torre. How in the world did he manage to draw this Capa having 2 passed pawns? At first glance I could'nt see it, but then it became clear that there was no way for Cap to win this. Any move by Cap in the final position leads to a draw because both pawns cannot be saved as the bishop will sacrafice itself for 1 and the king will pick off the other.Obviously you cannot mate with just knight and king. Good game by Torre.
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  tamar: White's position looks overwhelming near the time control. Was it there all along? I decided to analyze with endgame beast Komodo to see if Black really had a fortress.

It concludes 39 Nc5+ wins, instead of 38 Kd3. The point is to keep Black's King off of b6 and a5.

39 Nc5+ Kd6 40 Na6 Bd7 41 Kd2 Bc8 42 Nc5 (43 Kd3 Bxa6 may draw because the White King lacks entry squares) Kc7 43 a5

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Apr-02-14  Whitehat1963: What happens if 52. Nxd5?
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  AylerKupp: <Whitehat1963> If 52.Nxd5 then after 52...Ka6 White can't stop 53...Kxa5 since 53.Kb4 would lose the knight. And after 53...Kxa5 Black can sacrifice his bishop for White's d-pawn, leading to a drawn K+N vs. K ending.
Jul-04-16  RookFile: A pretty nifty save by Torre. Most people don't draw an ending two pawns down to Capa.
Aug-28-17  Straclonoor: 37....Kf5 was not enough for draw, 37...b6 was better.

Analysis by Stockfish 260817 64 POPCNT:
1. ± (1.16): 37...b6 38.Nc6 a5 39.Ne7 Bf7 40.Nc8 Kf5 41.Nxb6 Ke6 42.Nc8 Bg6 43.Kd2 Kd7 44.Na7 Kc7 45.Nc6 Kb6 46.Ne5 Be4 47.Ke3 Kc7 48.Nd3 Kd6 49.Nc5 Bg6 50.Ke2 Bf5 51.Kd2 Kc7 52.Kc3 Kb6 53.Nd3 Kc7 54.Nf4 Kd6 55.Ng2 Kc7 56.Ne3 Be4 57.Kd2 Kd6 58.Ng4 Kc7 59.Nf6 Bg2 60.Kd3 Kd6 61.Ng4 Be4+ 62.Kc3 Kc7 63.Ne5 Bf5 64.Kd2 Kb7 65.Ke3 Bc2 66.Nd7 Bf5 67.Nc5+ Kc7

2. +- (#47): 37...Kf5 38.Nxb7 Ke6 39.Nc5+ Kd6 40.Na6 Bd7 41.Kd2 Bh3 42.Kc3 Bf1 43.Kb4 Be2 44.a5 Bg4 45.Nc5 Kc7 46.Kc3 Bf5 47.a6 Bh3 48.Kb4 Bc8 49.Nd3 Kb6 50.Nb2 Kc7 51.Kc5 Bf5 52.Na4 Be4 53.Nc3 Bg2 54.Nxd5+ Kd7 55.b6 axb6+ 56.Nxb6+ Kd8 57.a7 Bb7 58.a8Q+ Bxa8 59.Nxa8 Kc8 60.Nb6+ Kb7 61.Kd6 Kxb6 62.Kd7 Ka6 63.Kc6 Ka7 64.d5 Kb8 65.Kd6 Kc8

Nov-26-17  andrea volponi: 33...Kf6! -Nf4 Bg6 -Nxg6 Kxg6=
Feb-06-20  Straclonoor: <It concludes 39 Nc5+ wins, instead of 38 Kd3.> That's right!

Analysis by Stockfish 230120 64 BMI2:

+- (23.95): 39.Nc5+ Kd6 40.Na6 Bd7 41.Kd3 Bc8 42.Nc5 Bf5+ 43.Kc3 Kc7 44.a5 Bg4 45.Kb4 Bh3 46.a6 Bf1 47.Ka5 Bh3 48.Nd3 Bf1 49.Ne5 Kb8 50.Nc6+ Ka8 51.Ne7 Bh3 52.Nxd5 Kb8 53.b6 Bg2 54.bxa7+ Kxa7 55.Nc3 Ba8 56.Nb5+ Kb8 57.Kb6 Kc8 58.a7 Kd7 59.Nc7 Bf3 60.d5 Kd6 61.Nb5+ Ke5 62.a8Q Bg4 63.Qb8+ Ke4 64.Kc5 Kf5

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