chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing
Emanuel Lasker vs Jacques Mieses
Lasker - Mieses (1889/90), Leipzig GER, rd 1, Dec-30
Dutch Defense: General (A80)  ·  1-0

ANALYSIS [x]

FEN COPIED

Click Here to play Guess-the-Move
Given 69 times; par: 76 [what's this?]

explore this opening
find similar games 12 more Lasker/J Mieses games
PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: You can get computer analysis by clicking the "ENGINE" button below the game.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.
PREMIUM MEMBERS CAN REQUEST COMPUTER ANALYSIS [more info]

A COMPUTER ANNOTATED SCORE OF THIS GAME IS AVAILABLE.  [CLICK HERE]

Kibitzer's Corner
Jul-23-02  azi: Hi. I like this site but I have a problem using it. I registered and login each time. Now I get a message saying ICS has closed right in the middle of playing over a game. Any one have some help? Thank you. Hope I hear from someone.

Azi
7/23/02 8:58 am

Jul-23-02
Premium Chessgames Member
  chessgames.com: Two questions:

#1 - What java viewer are you using? (MyChess, ChessTutor, etc.), and have you tried others?

#2 - Do you ever use ICS or FICS? It sounds like some software you have installed (that has nothing to do with chessgames.com) keeps popping up.

Nov-18-04  ughaibu: Lasker seems to have missed a mate at move 21.
Nov-19-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  Benzol: <ughaibu> Not sure I follow you here. White can try 21.♕f7+ ♔h6 22.♘f5+ gxf5 23.♖g3 and the Black King is uncomfortable but it's not mate yet. Where is the missed mate?
Nov-19-04  Minor Piece Activity: Maybe he meant mate or extreme loss of material. In your line, I see no rescue for black except to sacrifice the rook because white has too many mating points.
Nov-19-04  ughaibu: Benzol: 22.Qg6 etc.
Nov-19-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  An Englishman: Good Evening: ughaibu's idea is that after 22...Kxg6; 23.Rg3+,Kh7; 24.Bd3+,f5; 25.Bf5+,Kh6; 26.Nf7#. If that's correct, then it's a brilliant conclusion to a brilliant attack--and a bit of a surprising oversight from a World Champion who once said, "When you see a good move, wait--don't play it--look for a better one."
Nov-21-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  Benzol: <ughaibu> <An Englishman> Thanks guys. I missed 22.♕xg6+.
Nov-21-04  draw o coward: hello everyone,
I have a question regarding move 18.
Doesn't 18 Re8! win the queen? if not, then why not? and if so then why wasn't it played? I'm sure I am missing something here.
Nov-21-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  samvega: 18.Re8 Qxd6 19.Qxd6 Rxe8 is an even exchange, after which white's attack peters out
Feb-11-07  alshatranji: Regarding the queen's attack on f7, notice that black will play qa5+, which, as far as I can see, could lead to perpetual check. That's probably why the white queen has to remain on the fifth rank.
Feb-28-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  keypusher: <ughaibu> 21. Qf7+ Kh6 22. Qxg6+!! is just stupendous.
Jul-06-08  madlydeeply: I get the feeling that Mieses was a pure attacker. He must have been very quick at calculating possibilities. I think he liked to open up the game as quickly as possible in order to out calculate his opponent. He seems to no care about positional considerations at all. Lasker sets up the Reshevsky's double octopus on move 8 (two Knights side by side in an open center...endless forking possibilites see Alekhine vs Reshevsky, 1936) I suppose it's quite ballsy to try to outcalculate Mieses but he already has an huge development advantage.
Dec-24-10  bengalcat47: In Reinfeld and Fine's book Lasker's Greatest Chess Game's they have pointed out that he had a more decisive move with 21. Kc1! All of White's threats remain, and Black cannot play 21...Qa5 because of 22. Re7+, Kh6; (..Nxe7 is also hopeless)23. Nf7+, Kg7; 24. Nxh8+ and mate in 3.
Jul-31-12  LoveThatJoker: Awesome game!

LTJ

Jul-04-13  Melonhead: 21. Qf7+ In the actual game White went for a piece up endgame via ( 21. Re8 Rxe8 22. Rxe8 Qa5+ 23. Qxa5 Nxa5 24. Rxc8 Rxc8 25. Nxc8 and, for some reason, Black didn't resign and instead hung out until move 37 before finally giving up. ) 21... Kh6 22. Qxg6+!! Kxg6 23. Rg3+ Kh7 24. Bd3+ f5 25. Bxf5+ Kh6 26. Nf7#

from
http://www.chess.com/article/view/e...

Feb-11-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: A shame that Lasker overlooked that line. A gorgeous missed opportunity.
Feb-11-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  keypusher: <bengalcat47: In Reinfeld and Fine's book Lasker's Greatest Chess Game's they have pointed out that he had a more decisive move with 21. Kc1! All of White's threats remain, and Black cannot play 21...Qa5 because of 22. Re7+, Kh6; (..Nxe7 is also hopeless)23. Nf7+, Kg7; 24. Nxh8+ and mate in 3.>

More decisive than 21.Qf7+ Kh6 22.Qxg6+?

Feb-11-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: <keypusher: ... More decisive than 21.Qf7+ Kh6 22.Qxg6+?>

"The threat is stronger than the execution." ? Amazing that Fine and Reinfeld missed it too. That wouldn't, or shouldn't, happen in these days - of course Houdini burps it out instantly.

Oct-03-14  john barleycorn: Have a look here:
http://www.amazon.com/John-Nunns-Ch...
Oct-18-15  auroraspitfire: This is a banal question. Where is the pull down menu to make a game collection? Thanks
Oct-20-15  whiteshark: <auroraspitfire> Scroll down until you see <Your Game Collections>.

Probably also helpful for newbies: Chessgames Help

Jul-31-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  plang: 2..c5 is an oddity which has not been repeated and 3 dxc was already a new move. 3..e6 looks like an improvement as Miese's 3..Qa5+ allowed White a clear lead in development. Nunn pointed out that 8..Qe6 9 Qe2..Bg7 10 Nd5..Na6 11 Bf4!..Qxb2 12 Qxb2..Bxb2 13 Rb1..Bg7 14 c5 followed by 15 Bxa6 would have won decisive material for White.

NOTE: Create an account today to post replies and access other powerful features which are available only to registered users. Becoming a member is free, anonymous, and takes less than 1 minute! If you already have a username, then simply login login under your username now to join the discussion.

Please observe our posting guidelines:

  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate, or gibberish posts.
  3. No vitriolic or systematic personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No cyberstalking or malicious posting of negative or private information (doxing/doxxing) of members.
  6. No trolling.
  7. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by moderators, create a false impression of consensus or support, or stage conversations, is prohibited.
  8. Do not degrade Chessgames or any of it's staff/volunteers.

Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.

Blow the Whistle

See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a moderator.


NOTE: Please keep all discussion on-topic. This forum is for this specific game only. To discuss chess or this site in general, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors.
All moderator actions taken are ultimately at the sole discretion of the administration.

This game is type: CLASSICAL. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

Home | About | Login | Logout | F.A.Q. | Profile | Preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | New Kibitzing | Chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | Privacy Notice | Contact Us

Copyright 2001-2025, Chessgames Services LLC